We Don't Have a Gun Problem, We Have a Black Problem

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  1. TheImmortal

    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    Lol so you acknowledge that the black population commits an absurdly disproportionate amount of the violent crime?

    You just think we should ignore it or what?
     
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    I knew you didn't care about the victims! Lol. This is a twisted way to denigrate a full group of people. Holy Smoke.
     
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    Facts aren't racist.
     
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    Uhhh I said who cares what COLOR they are. Not about them. The victims are the ones I'm trying to keep from being victims any more. WTF lol
     
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    How?
     
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    Why isn't your position consistent? Why care about the color of the perpetrator and not just the fact that they've committed a heinous crime against another person?
     
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    I answered that but I'll do it again.


    I'd propose doing like we do with gang members. If a gang member commits a violent crime their punishment is far more severe because they are part of a group who is more likely than other groups to commit violent crime.

    The same should be true with blacks. If they commit a violent crime then their punishment should be more severe because they're part of a group who commits violent crime at an absurd rate.
     
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    Not obscure. Simply dealing with the FACT that 98% of black Americans DO NOT COMMIT murder. So if you want to pull hatred for black American citizens out of your butt because of statistics, then smoke on that one.
     
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    My position is consistent. I'm after the offender because the offender has done something wrong. The victim has not (in most cases). So the victim doesn't need to change their behavior or be punished. The offender does.

    The best thing we can do for the victim is control the offender.
     
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    So tell us why blacks commit 52% of our total murder when they only make up 14 % of the population.

    You don't think that's a problem?
     
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    Already been tried, three strikes law.
     
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    Please take your head out of the sand and understand reality:

    While people of color make up about 30 percent of the United States’ population, they account for 60 percent of those imprisoned. 1 in every 15 African American men and 1 in every 36 Hispanic men are incarcerated in comparison to 1 in every 106 white men.

    According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, one in three black men can expect to go to prison in their lifetime.

    African American youth have higher rates of juvenile incarceration and are more likely to be sentenced to adult prison.
    According to the Sentencing Project, even though African American juvenile youth are about 16 percent of the youth population, 37 percent of their cases are moved to criminal court and 58 percent of African American youth are sent to adult prisons.

    https://www.americanprogress.org/is...or-and-criminal-justice-in-the-united-states/

    So one in three Black men one sees is likely a criminal or a future criminal. Terrible odds. The only way to reduce this number is to slam all violent offenders hard, as they did back before the 1960's.
     
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    Males make up less than 50% of the population yet account for well over 90% of the violent crime.
     
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    Poor males account for the vast majority of crime in this country.
     
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    No three strikes. First time every time.
     
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    If not obscure, then how about deflect from or attempt to mitigate?
    Either way, you're trying to diminish the facts put forth by the OP.
    Why?
     
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    You choose to only look at the problem by race. Why not by gender and socioeconomic class? Poor males account for the vast majority of crime
     
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    If you take blacks out of that equation the rest of the races poor people don't have a problem. But you wouldn't be willing to do that cause you want to make this an everyone problem when it isn't.
     
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    Is that your solution? Just come out and say it. If you think blacks are the problems should we get rid of the blacks in this country? You have stated a problem as you see it.....what is your solution? Don't make us guess.....just say it
     
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    The idiocy never ends. It just picks up momentum. Let's put your idea to a test. We'll cover you with black shoe polish and see how long it takes for you to commit murder with a gun.
     
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    I have already told everyone several times my solution.

    I'd propose doing like we do with gang members. If a gang member commits a violent crime their punishment is far more severe because they are part of a group who is more likely than other groups to commit violent crime.

    The same should be true with blacks. If they commit a violent crime then their punishment should be more severe because they're part of a group who commits violent crime at an absurd rate.
     
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    Stop playing games....just say what your solution to this "problem" is?
     
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    Because it is one more attempt to paint an entire segment of a population with a statistic that only applies to a small percentage of said population.
    It is a sad attempt to rationalize bigotry and racism. It is the tactic of pathetic little nazis and KKK morons.
     
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    It's not the black pigment genius. It's the evolutionary traits of aggression and violence they possessed that evolved ALONG with the black pigmentation.
     
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    So you want special laws aimed at harsher sentences for blacks and you believe this would be constitutional. Is that it?
     

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