We Don't Have a Gun Problem, We Have a Black Problem

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  1. TheImmortal

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    Not while I'm here. But when I get to State it'll be more feasible. Although it'll still take a couple years given the pace of politics.
     
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    I think the title of this thread should be your campaign slogan. What do you think?
     
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    No I think I'm going to go with, "Take Back Our State". But that's a work in progress.
     
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    I really am curious. Would you ever make this statement (the title of this thread) in public on the campaign trail?
     
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    What a coincidence, that's where the first black Miss North Carolina had the cross burned in her yard (I mentioned that but you ignored).

    You actually are an elected official? What city? Why are you anonymous here?
     
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    Well probably not because that's not a statement you just make without having the opportunity to provide justification why. Given the proper forum, sure I would.
     
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    Because I don't want people like Vegas and that other troll which is probably vegas' alter to waste my taxpayers time and money calling up city hall and crying about me.

    Oh and it's also a coincidence that two years ago a young white man and his gf were brutally kidnapped raped in front of him and sodomized by three black guys and a black girl while screaming racial hatred so loud people in adjoining properties heard them before they viciously murdered the two whites.

    But you know. A cross got burned so that's way more important.
     
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    I think you should look for an opportunity to sit down with someone early on and get this out. I think this is a heartfelt belief of yours and the people should hear it. Don't hide it
     
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    You seem to have plenty of taxpayer's time for this forum.
     
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    It sounds like you are afraid of people knowing what you believe in
     
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    I'm only on this forum when I'm "off" although technically im always on call or else when I'm in transit.
     
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    No. I'd just rather them hear it from me instead of someone like you who is going to misrepresent my position.
     
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    That's a fair comparison.

    Would like like me to now list the hundreds of years of hatred and brutality against African Americans in this country?
     
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    Why don't you give a basic outline of your bill in your own words.
     
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    Sure let's compare the violence occurring against blacks that are clearly racist to the ones against whites by blacks. But I promise you don't want to go there.
     
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    Not with you, no.

    What was the incident you referenced, btw.

    Also, go ahead and outline your bill in your own words.
     
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    Well first of all it would be preceded with a hefty round of discussions and debates on the topic of discrimination against whites. As well as either a separate bill prior to or within the same bill revocations for programs that are explicitly discriminatory towards whites, especially white males. I would probably go with a separate bill because if I got that accomplished I wouldn't have grounds to push the second bill. So I would have to approach the problem (the absurd amount of black violence) in a different way.

    As I said before I'm not just looking to be at the local or state level. So I'm not going to blow my wad too early.
     
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    I'm not sure I get the relevance of this supposed discrimination against white males and the "black problem" you speak of...

    Regardless, my original question in this thread was wondering what your (or anyone's) solution is to this " black problem".

    You never replied.

    So what is your actual solution?
     
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    Because if it is acceptable to discriminate against one race then it must be acceptable to discriminate against all races.

    Yes I did reply. I answered that several times. I would suggest doing what we do with gang members. If you are part of a group that is grossly overrepresented in regards to violent crime and you commit and are convicted of such then you should receive a more harsh sentence.

    Of course that's not the only option but it's the most direct given we already discriminate against people based upon race.
     
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    Are you saying the ACW was fought over the Fugitive Slave Laws? i don't think that's the case.

    My understanding is that not all the States dragged their feet about enforcing the SCOTUS decisions. It was a jurisdiction by jurisdiction thing. Some areas were quite enthusiastic about helping slave catchers, to the point of giving them two blacks for one occasionally, (refer to my previous post about 12 YAS ) Other states were not. The most typical cases were those where local law enforcement refused to help the catcher even though he had force of law, and the people would be in active opposition. (to the point of beating one so badly he escaped and left the business, according to my immediate ancestors who kept the incident as a cherished family story)

    In any case if the Fugitive Slave Laws are all you have as a grievance I don't think it's worth a hill of beans, let alone secession from the Union. You have arguments for a few cash settlements nothing else.
     
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    No you're missing the point. It's the constitution. The states or federal government can NOT have the right to simply declare a portion of the constitution to be immoral and refuse to uphold it. Do you understand the dangerous precedent that sets?

    And you would be incorrect about them dragging their feet. They actively worked to violate them by instituting what are called the Personal Liberty Laws
     
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    OK fine, the Free States were wrong to do this. Are you stating that this was the reason for the ACW? That is ahistoric to my knowledge. The Fugitive Slave controversy was a sore point for many states but I've never heard that even one threatened secession from the Union because of it. The Southern States withdrew from the Union mainly because Lincoln was elected and they thought he would be willing and able to acquire the votes in Congress necessary to abolish slavery. Lincoln, however, had assured them he only meant to prevent its expansion into any new territories, which prevention, I think, was Constitutional
     
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    So in your mind, every single African American is in a gang a la the Ku Klux Klan.

    This article is wrong, I suppose.

    White supremacists' favorite myths about black crime rates take another hit from BJS study
    https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch...-black-crime-rates-take-another-hit-bjs-study

    What other options?
     
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