We got out first gender neutral bathroom...would you use it?

I really wouldn't care. Not much different than public baths, really. You'll get some weirdo's, but...that happens male or female.

 

This just happened 2 days ago. I was going to use the bathroom at my school and was in a hurry. The first door had a picture of a lady on it so I automatically turned towards the other door and started walking forward when I noticed it too had a picture of a lady. Well, actually a lady and a man. So here's one door with only a lady on it and another door with a lady and a man on it. I did not know what to do for a moment, and I was in a hurry.

Well, turns out the school decided to turn one of the bathrooms into a "gender neutral" bathroom. They decided to convert the men's room. I guess if they're going to have trans people using the bathroom they'd rather have a butch female-to-male come into a room with a bunch of men than have someone with a penis under their dress go into the room with the women. Makes sense I guess, but I still can't get over the fact it's not exactly "equality". Now the women have their own special room, all to themselves, while anyone could waltz right in to the men's room.

There is a dedicated men's bathroom in the building, but you would have to walk all the way down the stairs to the lower first floor. So women have two women's restrooms, men have only one. Got to love equality.

 

Homosexuality, no. Obsessive busybodies and transgender folks yes.

 

This is a spin off of the whole trans child in the opposite sex's bathroom. A bathroom set up like at a school being coed is a bad idea. Now, single locking types like at gas stations or everyone's home, that's fine. We all grew up with a coed bathroom, all of us. The difference is when you put a stranger next to you of the opposite sex. For the majority of people who aren't screwed up in the head, it would be ok for the most part. I wouldn't look over the stall, you wouldn't look over the stall. You wouldn't have to worry about me breaking into your stall and raping you, I'm pretty sure once you saw me, you wouldn't try it either. The problem is, there is a huge population of screwed up people out there that don't play by the rules like the rest of us. This is why we are separated.

The FBI states that last year there were 116,000 people who were raped. The national rape treatment center says that only 16% of rapes are reported. Then, 54% of rape victims are between the ages of 12 to 17.

So, for everyone to think that it is ok to put everyone together in place like a bathroom.... Ya... No. Those numbers are also not sexual assaults... that's a much higher number. Again, the majority of people are not idiots, they are not predators, they are not scum. It's not the majority that the rules are made for however. It's for the large number of idiots that have no respect for you or others.

 

Where did most of those rapes happen? I am betting not in a public toilet

 

That's because men will generally be more likely to make women uncomfortable through staring, catcalling and so on, and also to pose a threat to their safety (since women are disproportionately victims of sexual assault).

Gender-neutral bathrooms are one of the few pieces of legislation which genuinely get me excited. But I don't think society is nearly close enough to dissolving the concept of gender to have gender-neutral bathrooms yet.

 

Actually the issue is more about pee on the floor and the fact that men seem to generate more malodourous emissions from the nether regions than women

 

I will guarantee some did. If 116,000 are only 16% of reported rapes, with that amount, I bet they happen in a lot of places. I have not personally googled public bathroom rape, it's not one of my normal topics.....

 

https://rainn.org/files/uploadedFiles/aboutoffenders.jpg


Approximately 50% of all rape/sexual assault incidents were reported by victims to have occured within 1 mile of their home or at their home.2
•7% take place in a school.
•13% take place at the home of a friend, neighbor, or relative.
•18% take place in a public area, such as a commercial venue, parking lot, or park.
https://rainn.org/files/uploadedFiles/aboutoffenders.jpg

 

That, too.

 

So, 8100+ rapes happen in school.
15,000+ rapes happen at the home of a friend, neighbor, or relative.
20,800+ rapes happen in a public area such as a commercial venue, parking lot, or park.

Gocha

Yet, that's only 16% of rapes......

 

Don't drop your change.

 

We used to call them unisex bathrooms but same thing. Sure I have and would use them. I end up in the ladies room half the time by mistake anyways.

 

I'd use it, and it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. This does remind me of the dangerous terrorist group MAPSU. Their website is mapsu.org - "Mothers Against Peeing Standing Up". There are rumours they have also donated money to hillary, so be careful!

 

I've cleaned women's bathrooms. That's a lie.

 

I did not bother to wade through all the rubbish posts and if anyone said something similar, I apologize in advance.

What about single user non gender specific individual bathroom stalls anyone can use ?

You simply go in and lock the door, multiple stalls all private.

NYC had pay public bathrooms, not gender specific that anyone can use one at a time.

There are many good bathroom schemes out there, lets simply choose one that anyone of any persuasion can use, one person goes in locks the door and takes care of business, not as complicated as people try to make it, less chance someone will try to upload a video to youtube of someone piddling.

 

It matters where it is a 1-person bathroom or for multiple people. Many locations only have 1 bathroom, which is therefore gender/sex neutral.

 

The last Church I officiated in had two bathrooms, I recommended changing both bathrooms to non gender specific, since both bathrooms were single user anyway, neither bathroom had a urinal and only one was ADA compliant.

 

Locking stalls? No. Individual bathrooms? Sure, but that is not a remodel most locations would or could do.

 

I have yet to see an actual business location that could not.
Not talking about some unlicensed rinky dink hole in the wall masquerading as a legitimate business either.

 

Do you want that remodel of every commercial, government and park facility in the USA required by a federal law? Do you have a total price tag for that?

 

The ADA act accomplished that, it also was necessary as many people in wheelchairs had almost no bathrooms they could use.
And in some cases, I used personal funds to help accomplish ADA compliance.

Upon serious reflection, I would not want Federal law to force compliance even though I pushed the ADA act with full force.

 

If I had to use the bathroom...then yeah, duh. It's a bathroom. What would you do, whip it out and (*)(*)(*)(*) on the floor instead?

 

yes I would use the hell out of it, but I wouldn't want my wife (if I was still married) and defiantly not any of my daughters use it

 

I know of many restaurants, cafes etc that have gender neutral bathrooms, including the one my partner owns.

Multiply occupancy raises a slightly different issue .. however so long as there is no open urinals etc then I see no issue with the concept, it is entirely feasible to have a multiple occupancy bathroom that has individual contained stalls inside it therefore ensuring that individual privacy is maintained. I would not however legislate existing bathrooms be changed to gender neutral to me that is an over reach. Would I use one or allow my sons and daughters to use it, I certainly would without question, as to my sons and daughters that would be up to them as they are old enough to make that decision, if it were a case of a younger child then it would depend, if the child is not of an age where they could not accomplish the task without help then I would send my partner with them (in the case of a female child, or myself for a male child), if they were old enough then I would go with them and wait outside the individual stall.

TBH I can see no logical reasoning to forbid gender neutral bathrooms, as most of the objections are based on historical values