Were American Indians the Victims of Genocide?

How about we blame Native Americans for their own demise without any proof...

Then we should fine a liberal quack so we can paint all liberals as quacks...

Let's now blame indigenous peoples again for offing themselves, even though we all kind the Europeans killed them...

Let's now portray Native Americans as barbaric people who needed to be saved by Christians...

Now how can we somehow 'other' Native Americans more and cast them as inherently pathetic freeloaders....

And how can we remind people that indigenous peoples, not the Europeans, caused their own demise....

Overall, and excellent attempt at revising history.

 

Land owner James Czywczynski says he has tried to negotiate in good faith with the Sioux-Lakota...

To whom does Wounded Knee belong?
27 April 2013 - The battleground site Wounded Knee is up for sale. Should it be developed as a landmark or left in peace out of respect for the Sioux people who died there?

 

The 'indians' lost, the invaders kicked the crap out them, end of story... There was no genocide, just losers in a fight that got special treatment, that was later decided not to be so special, that's the way of the world...

 

That is the mentality that got America into Iraq, just because a country has the capability to invade does not make it okay to become an empire.

Now if the logic is we should go on an invasion spree and take over all the lands without nuclear weapons for their resources, then that is different.

We have a window with Iran, they will disrupt the oil market and raise gas prices for a bit as their army is bigger than Iraq. But we can seize their resources and protect Israel at the same time, so it is beneficial in the long run as it was making genocide of the indians.

 

Some native tribes might be said to have tried to commit the genocide of whites. It's called war. The natives lost. Then they caused their own demise or genocide by refusing the new rule, law and times. Try not obeying the law and see where it gets you. The harder you resist, the greater the forces that come to bear against you, up-to and including being driven and killed. It's simple cause and effect or basic math. But it's not really genocide. I'm glad the whites won, thereby uniting the whole nation, including all the tribes under one flag and one liberty. I'll take indoor plumbing, air conditioning, winchester rifles and four wheel drives over a teepee and natures raw brutality any day. Thank God for the white man.

 

Huh? We didn't explore, people, seize, expand and/or claim Iraq. We overthrew a tyrant looking for wmd's and then returned the country back to the Iraqis.

 

Iraq was a means to an end, they control a small part of the oil market and they were causing problems for the biggest oil consumers, America.

The Indians were in control of a small part of America, and they were causing problems for Americans with their occupation of farming land.

Uncivilized people like the Iraqis and Indians have to be dealt with so that Americans can be free of trouble.

 

You are correct sir! It was "Apr 26 2013, 02:54 AM" when I posted, I was confused. That would 3 time around the earth instead. Thank you for correcting that.

 

Yes. It's also worth mentioning that the tribes outnumbered whites in the vast majority of conflicts over the 300 years or so, and they had no problem trading for guns and other weapons as well, so it was a more than even match.

Another book worth reading re the Cherokee and Creeks' wars with each other and everybody around them is Trail of Tears: The Rise and Fall of the Cherokee Nation, by John Ehle; full of historical facts re Andrew Jackson, Major Ridge, Watie, John Ross, and the politics of the era.

 

Tell me, what is your definition of genocide, and how does the American treatment of Native Americans not objectively qualify as genocidal?

 

What a disgusting thing to say.

At least you are now acknowledging that Europeans explored, seized and claimed America. It's called "theft".

 

Native Americans were rolled-over fairly easily by Westerners, even fighting back with traded guns. With their numbers decimated by disease, Natives really had no chance of winning any major conflict. They had a Stone-Age level of technology. They had no mechanization or industrial capacity. They could made simple knives from scavenged iron, but they could not even begin to make a complex thing like a gun or a cartridge.

Ditto to what happened the Sub-Saharan Africans. Like at Little Bighorn, Africans won some battles like Isandlawna against European colonials, but were also over-run without too much trouble.

With Africa and the Americas subdued by more Christian Westerners, the genocide and most of the warfare was largely stopped. Slavery was also abolished.

Sub-Sharan Africa only began to revert back to its ugly ways after the Colonials gave up their power during the last 50 years.

 

People have the right to say their opinion with out getting attacked . Consider yourself reported .

 

The definition of genocide is: the America haters rabid efforts to murder American peace, tranquility, and the spirit of love for country, God and family. Throw in the murder of morality and virtue as well by the haters of America. And there you have the definition and the activity of genocide....terrorisms sibling.

 

I would feel sorry for you. But first I must cease to marvel at your vacancy and your attempts to appear human via speech. BTW, natives say that one cannot own the earth. Consequently, it cannot be stolen from a native, and therefore, cannot be referred to as theft.

 

Whatever you say. If we choose, we can live in a world of comforting illusion. Open your eyes. Dissent isn't hate for America. Criticism is far from hate. Dissent is the highest form of patriotism. Dissent is the highest form of care and pride for country, and love for a people. How can we grow and progress if we can't look at our faults and strive higher? How can we truly care for our people if we don't aim to improve the welfare of humanity and prevent our mistakes from happening again? How can we stand idly by in submissive brainwashing and not stand up for what is right?