Were they forgiven?

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  1. Pieces of Malarkey

    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    Bull.
     
  2. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    We're waiting.
     
  3. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Clearly, my quotes are much more credible than your quotes. It stands to reason by your own parameters that my quotes are irrefutably more credible. You cannot even mount an earnest protest against it. :disbelief:
     
  4. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What are you waiting for? I've already told you. Do you want me to repeat it?
     
  5. Pieces of Malarkey

    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    One really doesn't need to argue with the overblown self confidence of incompetents. Just let them fail.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good luck with your superior quotes.
     
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  7. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then it should be easy for you to produce them.
     
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  8. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I aleady have.
     
  9. Trixare4kids

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    He understands it. You're wrong, and when @Overitall calls it a day, it's not to keep belaboring a poster's non-point.
     
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  10. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They must have been too little for me to note them.
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know why some people fail to note my siggy, where I make it clear. Nothing personal, but I see no reason why I should entertain posts that continue to waste my time. So I try to be polite in dismissing that person(s).
     
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  12. Thingamabob

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    For the umpteenth time, these are the two most important quotes that have ever been recorded by all of humanity, through all of time:

    * "Neither God nor Jesus wrote the bible."

    * The bible is a work of fiction."

    There is an unlimited number of quotes that support and substantiate those truths but these two are the most important and most fundamental upon which all other quotes are based. It can be said that all others are mere commentaries of those two that constitute the tenant of reality itself.
     
  13. Pieces of Malarkey

    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    No, those are just stupid.
     
  14. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, you believe someone's opinion counts as truths. That's just foolish believing.
     
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    Seems clear to me they were forgiven. And I dont think "Christianity today generally rejects this philosophy". I think Christianity is generally interested in not broadcasting the notion of 'hey just sin as much as you want because it doesnt matter, Jesus forgives you anyway' because the suffering such a lifestyle results in can lead to one rejecting forgiveness. It may seem trivial to some, but Free Will is extremely important in Christianity. Forgiveness may be free, but you still have to accept the handout. The only alternative is to have salvation forced upon you, which would undermine the entire purpose of giving us a choice.

    I do believe acceptance can happen after we die, 'while standing at the pearly gates' so to speak. Scripture mentions that during the three days that Jesus was 'dead', after crucifiction and before resurrection, he 'went to preach to (or comfort, some versions say) the imprisonned.' Its a pretty vague one-liner... but sounds to me like he went to preach to the dead (which makes sense, Him being dead and all). Cant think of any reason to preach to the dead other than to offer them forgiveness and salvation.
     
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  16. Thingamabob

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    Your statement is your response to quotes from the Supreme Being, the highest authority that has ever been noted. In essence, it is God saying;

    ”I did not write the bible nor did Jesus”.

    “The bible is fiction written by man”.
    That "someone" is the Lord him/her/itself and your reaction is blasphemous.
     
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    I don't recall The Lord saying either of the two statements you quoted. You're just making this **** up as you go along.
     
  18. Thingamabob

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    You don't "recall"? That poses two very obvious points:

    1). You (nor I, for that matter) were present when the Lord said it.
    2). Relying on a third party ought to be commonplace for you (believing in John's habit of quoting, for example) so I don't see what your gripe is.


    Allow me to repeat it one more time:

    * "Neither God nor Jesus wrote the bible."
    * The bible is a work of fiction."


    These are the Lord's very own words! I didn't make anything up. John has been quoted here several times. Did you make it up? Did John make it up? He certainly did contribute to the hoax (as we now know the bible to be) because John is quoted through and through the bible. Those quotes are undoubtedly "made up" because I have just quoted the Supreme Being's own words and they dispute those of John unequivocally. In great truth, the phony bible must have caused the Lord enough concern for him/her/it to denounce it after the fact.
     
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    I don't know if I should take you seriously. Your statements are laughable, imo.
     
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    The Bible is a testimony by men, of Gods works and words among men. The fiction resides in your saying that it is fiction when you haven't a clue about its veracity or the existence of God. I know of myself this day that God is real, that he lives and is divine. What do you actually know?
     
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    I know what you know and in that knowledge I'm fully confident that God has us in His loving arms.
     
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    Once again the Supreme Being said … and I quote:

    * "Neither God nor Jesus wrote the bible."
    * "The bible is a work of fiction written by man."


    Those are the Lord’s very own words and what he is clearly saying is this:

    ”I did not write the bible nor did Jesus”.
    “The bible is fiction written by man”.


    If you are wondering why I have not placed the name of the Supreme Being at the end of each quote (as you do with the name of John) it is because doing so is blasphemous in the very same way that devout Jews do not write the name “G_d”. I am sorry if you find that complicated but I already realize that you are not versed in higher matters of the Lord and I cannot help you with that.
    Correct! Exactly! The words of men. :nod:

    As the Lord has said,

    ”I did not write the bible nor did Jesus”.
    “The bible is fiction written by man”.


    You know very well it is true. You just said so. So, where is your problem?
    Why do you resort to absurd conclusions & accusations? Where did I say “god doesn't exist”? Is this how you conduct an earnest discussion by telling untruths about what others have said? The issue is not in the existence of the (a) Lord but what it is he/she/it has done and what he/she/it expects of humanity. That is where you've been led far astray thanks to the bible and those who have concocted it.
    I 'actually know' what the Lord has said, you do not. In fact, you are caught in a chicanery consisting of :arrow:‘John said’, that :arrow:‘Jesus said’ that :arrow:‘the Lord said’. It must be very confusing for you and I’m sure that it is. So ..... what I actually know is what the Supreme Being has said, not what some upstarts and fake messiahs have said.

    Just to remind you of the main point(s):
    The Lord said,

    :floating: "Neither God nor Jesus wrote the bible."
    You know that is true, correct?

    :floating: “The bible is fiction written by man”.
    Now, whether you believe the bible is fiction or not .... you do know that it was written by man, not by the Lord or Jesus. Correct?
     
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    Ok. You've convinced me that I shouldn't take you seriously.
     
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    Don't let the iron door strike you in the buttocks.
     
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    Yea, well, enjoy the rest of your life on PF. I won't be joining your club.
     

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