What are your views on abortion?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Daggdag, Oct 19, 2020.

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Which best describes your view on abortion

  1. A woman has the right to choose to get an abortion with no limitations.

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    47.7%
  2. Abortion should be illegal after the first trimester

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    18.6%
  3. Abortion should be illegal except to preserve the health and life of the mother.

    24 vote(s)
    27.9%
  4. Abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.

    5 vote(s)
    5.8%
  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    How telling that you cannot explain HOW it is "nonsense!" Well, now I'm giving you the opportunity to do so in your next reply. Surprise me!

    Yes exactly. What's your point and how does it relate to what I said?
     
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    Who are you talking about? Specific religious groups? To my knowledge, the mainstream pro-life position in the US is that rape should be provided to save the life of the woman.

    Oh, "pretty much any circumstance." So not ALL. So given that you know so much about their position, which circumstance/s are they NOT opposed to abortion?

    It seems that more work needs to be done to ensure that women are not turned away in these cases.
     
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    Oh, so you agree with the Declaration of Independence?
     
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    Ok. I just think of "motherhood" as being an actual mother in the practical sense. And why are you calling people "IT?"
     
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    How is she prevented from "living her life" if she gives her kid up for adoption?
     
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    As in, in law?
     
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    It's not, but I believe that the woman's rights are more important in that context.
     
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    Oh? When exactly did I say that?

    Rights come from common sense and the sense of self preservation? :roflol:

    I would object because there is nothing natural about giving your body parts away. NOT the same as pregnancy, which is totally natural.
     
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    Yes.

    The way I have learned English, it is OK to refer to a child as "it" if you don't want/need to specify the gender. Also, I learned two languages that have no grammatical gender before I learned English, so Idgaf about this crap. :D
     
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    Omg.... Do you know how babies are made?
     
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    NO kids in the system? Yeah, I didn't make that claim. There doesn't need to be no kids in the system in order for it to be true that there are plenty of heterosexual couples who want to adopt. Unfortunately, it is the bureaucracy which is preventing all of the kids being adopted, and actually, if it wasn't for the bureaucracy, and kids were able be adopted easier, it may actually be the case that there would end up being a shortage of couples who want to adopt, meaning that same-sex couples could fill the gap. Was it your understanding that because there are kids in the system, this means that there is a shortage of couples? I can understand why you would think that, because it seems like it would be the case.

    How does that mean "second class citizen?"
     
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    Yes. How is she prevented from "living her life?" Let's see if you will deflect again!
     
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    Which do you think is most important? Life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness?

    Oh right, English is not you first language. I think I did know that. Well if you were taught that the word is "IT" in this context, then you were taught wrong. The word is they.
     
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    Women have been brainwashed into believing that the life in her is just a clump of cells.
     
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    Is this really this hard for you or are you actually this DUMB?

    if being a mother is not in her interest, forcing her to be a mother is preventing her from living her life the way she desires.
     
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    Yet another question that proves that you do not understand the concept of rights at all. You cannot have any one of those without the other.

    That's very progressive of you. :laughing:
     
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    Well, you can't have liberty, or the pursuit of happiness without life. Life is the fundamental right, without which none of the others are possible.

    Haha! Yes, I hate using it thanks to leftists hijacking it. I use it when I HAVE to.
     
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    Correct. "preventing her from living her life the way she desires" is not the same as "preventing her from living her life." This could be the slight language barrier again.
     
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    Based on what?
     
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    Initially it is.
     
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    Liberty.
     
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    Once again proving you have NO idea what bodily autonomy is.

    One more time (hopelessly ) :

    A person cannot use another person's body to sustain their own life without their consent.

    IF a fetus is deemed a person then they have to abide by those same restrictions...

    That is clear simple English ....if you don't understand it now you never will.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Uh, YOU made the claim that there are heterosexual couples who would adopt unwanted kids....so it's up to you to prove there are NO kids in the system now....no kids who "age out" of the system because no one adopted them...""


    LOL, excuses , excuses....why don't Anti-Choicers start FIXING that problem???

    AND it has to be hard to adopt since not all couples are fit for parenting...did you want children to go to unfit parents !!!!!!

    YUP, I guess there aren't enough Anti-Choice couples who put their money where their mouth is....or aren't enoough Anti-Choice couples who can qualify as good parents :)


    ""Oh right, English is not you first language."""
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    WHY? How do YOU know? Why do you insist women are stupid? Lack menatl ability?



    LOL, PROVE IT! It's a load of baloney...


    Do you know any women you could ask about that? ...besides your mom??
     
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    AGAIN: Why?
     

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