What are your views on abortion?

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Which best describes your view on abortion

  1. A woman has the right to choose to get an abortion with no limitations.

    41 vote(s)
    47.7%
  2. Abortion should be illegal after the first trimester

    16 vote(s)
    18.6%
  3. Abortion should be illegal except to preserve the health and life of the mother.

    24 vote(s)
    27.9%
  4. Abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.

    5 vote(s)
    5.8%
  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that starts at about 26 weeks

    http://www.slate.com/id/2120872/
    "a member of President Bush's Council on Bioethics, describes in his book The Ethical Brain, current neurology suggests that a fetus doesn't possess enough neural structure to harbor consciousness until about 26 weeks, when it first seems to react to pain. Before that, the fetal neural structure is about as sophisticated as that of a sea slug and its EEG as flat and unorganized as that of someone brain-dead."
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    I consider it to be homicide.
     
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    The decision lies solely with the women involved, nothing to do with anyone else.
     
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    LOL, absolutely hilarious that Repubs don't think Repubs get abortions....VERRRRY naïve...but hilarious !!
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if Christians care so much about abortion, why do they by far have the most abortions

    "U.S. Abortion Statistics"

    http://www.abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/

    "43% of women obtaining abortions identify themselves as Protestant, and 27% identify themselves as Catholic (AGI)."

    for those two groups of Christians equals 70% of all abortions right there alone

    and of course

    "Religious school grads likelier to have abortions"

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/31048153/...ligious-school-grads-likelier-have-abortions/

     
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    Nothing good can come from killing a child some couple might desperately want to adopt. Choose to adopt. It's so fashionable even our next Supreme Court justice does it.
     
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    Who said that? And how would you know if they WERE Republicans?
     
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    ^^^^^^ This^^^^^
     
  9. FreshAir

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    some people do not want to create children to give away as they fear the child would be sexually abused or who knows what, and they could not live with that, so they prefer not to bring a child into this world

    that is why it's an individual choice, one we can not make for them
     
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    I'm fine with reasonable limitations, such as a cutoff(which can start no earlier than my arbitrary point of 20 weeks) and bans on elective late-term abortions.
     
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    Here's two examples:

    """I used to be against it but then I realized if women want to murder millions of potential Democrat voters, who am I to argue?

    Have at it, Today at 3:11 AM ""



    """"""More abortion=less leftists. I stopped caring about it a long time ago.

    PanMonarchist, Today at 5:30 AM """""""""


    ...and that's just in this thread...
     
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    Nice strawman.
    Contraception isn't always 100% effective. So yes, there are many women who get pregnant who didn't want to get pregnant and therefore shouldn't be "forced" to carry to term. These women should have a choice of what to do with their own body. Quite frankly I find it beyond odd any woman would be against women being able to make their own choice when it comes to their own body.
     
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    No "child" is involved in abortion.

    FORCING a woman to harm her body, suffer the pain of pregnancy and childbirth, suffer career and financial setbacks just to provide someone else with a kid is barbaric.
     
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    Let alone, the impact on the woman's family. Many times the parents of the mother have to suffer financially because the mother can't afford the child.
     
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    Just a question, in your mind does the fetus become

    A. A baby?

    B. A lollipop?

    C. A flower ?
     
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    I personally believe life begins at conception, but since I as a man will never become pregnant I believe it should be available with agreed upon limitations and left to a woman and her conscience. And let's be honest here, Roe v. Wade IS a load of judicial crap, but it's been used by BOTH parties for decades as a fund raising fountain of fear mongering. Long past time for Congress to put on their big boy pants and craft a national abortion law UNIFORM for all the States! Please spare me the "states rights" argument, that was put to bed in 1865.
     
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    at least you're admitting a fetus is not a baby

    it may become a baby, many women have a natural abortion or a medically induced one though and it never becomes a baby

    most women have at least one natural abortion, if not many in their lifetimes
     
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    In SCIENCE a fetus becomes a baby at birth....see, it's called stages in life and the fetus is no more a baby than it is a teenager..
     
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    I spent nine years documenting crime scenes.
    After testifying in a couple of rape trials, I'm going to say that the 20% number is pretty accurate.
    If you haven't seen what women who try to bring charges against rapists are put through in a trial, and what they are subject to
    in high visibility cases, then you can't comprehend the reluctance to even try to bring said charges. Everything from being fired from their jobs to slut shaming, to death threats. Society treats women who claim rape extremely poorly.

    Have you ever been raped?
     
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    I doubt that is what you intended to convey. What were you trying to say?
     
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    Lol, so youre saying a fetus , becomes a baby, then a teenager?

    Wow who would of thought.
     
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    A fetus is a baby, it's just a term some people use to justify murder
     
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    Yes actually, when I was 9 years old. I tried to bring the person to justice but I fingered the wrong house and that was that. Never saw him again, but hope that karma bit him in the ass.
     
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    And more white supremacists, they sure didn't think this through to the end, did they?..
     
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    It's a distinction without a difference. It isn't that it "may" become a baby, it can only not be a baby if we interfere(and you yourself just posted that fact, I'm even quoting it.). There is no biological evolution that does not result in a new human in the world.

    So the question becomes, what line can we draw to be okay with this on a moral human level. It lies somewhere between "my body, my choice" and reasonable restrictions.
     
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