What do you think about Trump's comments about Mexican immigrants?

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  1. Tommy Palven

    Tommy Palven Active Member Past Donor

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    No, you're right. Trump's not a Trojan horse. He actually wants to be President, and maybe Raimondo is just kidding.

    You would think that Trump is too smart to be a racist warmonger, but he sure plays one well on TV, well enough to have the Republican powers-that-be afraid that he might get the GOP nomination or alienate enough people trying to that it causes big Republican losses.

    But who knows? Maybe enough people want a racist warmonger for President that he'll have the last laugh. We'll wake up one day with a swastika flying over the White House.
     
  2. ballantine

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    I don't know where the "racist warmonger" bit is coming from.... I mean, Trump is a clown, he's not even serious enough to be a racist warmonger. You know, he's not out there like David Duke pushing the "racist" angle, and he's not out there like a Neo-Con pushing the intervention angle.

    Seems to me the "racist warmonger" bit is just your standard political marginalization effort, it has no substance to it. Trump is the last one I would associated with a swastika, I'm not aware of any anti-Semitism in him, none at all ever in his history. (Are you? That would be of interest...)

    Nah man, Trump is the guy who appears on WWE with a bunch of tag team wrestlers. He gets to shave Vince McMahon's head, y'know..... ;)
     
  3. Tommy Palven

    Tommy Palven Active Member Past Donor

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    No, I'm not aware of any anti-Semitism on his part, and he hasn't said anything that I consider to be anti-Black, that I'm aware of, unlike, say, Rudy Giuliani. It's mainly the anti-Mexican stuff.

    As far as the warmongering goes, Hannity asked him what he'd do about ISIS and he said something like "I'd simply bomb them back to the Stone Ages." Made it seem real simple and painless, anyway, unlike Ron (not Rand) Paul who has been saying forever to keep the troops home and leave the Mid-East for the Mid-Easterners to sort out.
     
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    Heh heh - yeah, that's what I kind of expected, once we start talking about "other issues" Trump will be relatively more silent. "Bomb them back to the Stone Age" is not exactly a foreign policy, is it? (It's not even a defense policy, lol) :)

    Good, thanks, I didn't know Trump had commented on ISIS. LOL - "Stone Age", I mean.... that's kind of where they already are, ain't it? ;)
     
  5. tidbit

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    Mr. Truth:
    If Mexicans are the future of America, we are f*****. The world has never gotten a thing from Mexicans--no technology, nothing unique except sombreros. I see the Mexican women here with three kids in tow and one slung over her shoulders. When she had these kids, she had no intention of paying for their upkeep, and every intention of sticking AMERICAN taxpayers with the bill. Mexican immigrants are leeches and will bring with them their diseases, including drug resistant TB and AIDs; their drugs; and their gang banger shi*, I say again, If Mexicans are our future, we are screwed.
     
  6. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    My question for Trump is, when did Mexico decide to send its "worst?" Obviously, those who were amnestied in 1986 weren't rapists, so when did Mexico change its "policy?"
     
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    Mm. It's a valid question. I think Mr. Trump presumed that most of us knew about the cartels, but that may have been a bad assumption. I just spent a few posts talking about this issue and the history of it, in another thread. In a nutshell, the bad people started coming across with the rise of the cartels. Before that, we only had the occasional uninsured drunk driver, but now, fully half of the people coming across the border are affiliated with the cartels in some way, they go to every single major city in the US (and even many of the minor ones), and those are really the ones who are committing the felonies and flooding the jails. This is big business we're talking about, it's 100 billion dollars a year, at least. These people have "jobs" waiting for them when they get here, they just talk to so-and-so and they're all set up. They start small dealing heroin till they learn the operation, then they get involved in the quantities and the transport, and as they move up they get called upon to do some of the unpleasant work that accompanies the business. They even get paid for the time they spend in jail, that's why they don't even seem to care when they go there. The minute they get out they've got ten or twenty grand waiting for 'em and they can go get set up again. If they get deported, they come right back. Five, eight, ten times. They have control of entire towns just south of the border, they tunnel under the border to get to our side, they come up inside warehouses and stuff like that... look up Nuevo Laredo and check out what they did down there, they killed the police chief, the mayor, a few judges, two dozen cops, .... that was all in one day! They used that location to stage drug transport and human transport, they had all their important lieutenants going in and out of there for a while. I live in Los Angeles, we have it especially bad here. It's bad all through the southwest though, and even in places like Charleston - there's a Sinaloa outfit in Charleston SC and I'll betcha ten bucks that's where homey got his heroin (through however many layers, but that's where the heroin comes from).

    Yeah man, they're the worst, the absolute worst. And, the Mexican government is corrupt, half of those guys are cartelistas anyway, so it's true that their people are being "sent", and certainly all the circumstancial evidence supports that view too.
     
  8. Tommy Palven

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    The total repeal of all prohibition and regulation of recreational AND PRESCRIPTION DRUGS would probably go a long way toward solving problems between the US and Mexico and also the gun violence problems in inner cities, by taking the profit out of drugs and taking away the glamor of being a relatively rich drug dealer and role model.

    Until recently no prescriptions were needed for medicines in Ecuador or China, and maybe other countries, and people can still buy any medicines they want to in India without needing permission from someone else, and medicines seem to be about ten times cheaper in India than in the US.

    It was the repeal of alcohol prohibition that did away with the Al Capone-type gangs.
     
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    I don't disagree with this. It's not really any different than the Italian mob that set up in Chicago and NY in the early 20th century. What I don't agree with is that Trump presumed we knew about it. This one's on the media. If you and I can think of these questions, those in the media surely can.
     
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    IMHO, he acts too provocating and I bet he'll make many more provocating statements before the election.
     
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    The only difference is, the soviets built their wall to suppress their own citizens.
    Trump suggests building a wall with the best interest of American citizens in mind.
     
  12. Natty Bumpo

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    With the Flatulence befouling all the air in the GOP waiting room, it's easy to forget that he's not the only hysterical nut job in the queue:

    Meanwhile, back in the non-fiction section,

     
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    The average American knows that the people coming here legally are more then likely chill. We also know that a lot of very bad people come here illegally and commit very bad crimes. When you are called to sacrifice for the greater good (utopia) I hope you understand.


    [I was for Trump before it was cool]
     
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    Trump is not bashing immigrants. He is bashing illegal immigrants.....morons who sneak across the boarder illegally.
     

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