What do you think will happen in North Korea?

Well, here we are, on the afternoon of April 18th, and so far nothing has 'happened'.

Kimmy will probably blow around some more about how "he's going to do this", and "he's going to do that". And he might shoot off a few more missiles into the sea (if he can even get them to launch off the pad). He might even set off another 'bomb' of some kind (although nobody will really be able to say for sure what the hell kind of bomb it actually was).

Then, it'll all blow over for a few weeks. The Chinese will resume 'business-as-usual' with North Korea. Syria has been quiet since the "gas attack" affair, and so Trump will resume his squabbles with the recalcitrant radical Democrats who hate his guts and are moving heaven and earth to destroy his presidency.

Trump will probably go off onto some new challenge which will end up being more 'trench warfare' with Democrats, like that damn "wall" thing, or, a resumption of some kind of half-assed effort to "save" Obamacare. He'd be SO much better off just letting the damn thing crash-and-burn exactly as the Democrat masterminds set it UP to do, but he won't leave it alone. And so Spring will turn into Summer... (ho hum.).

Two months from now nobody will even remember what all this bugaboo drama involving North Korea was about. But the North Koreans will go right on developing more powerful nuclear weapons, and ICBM's with longer ranges anyway... and the Iranians will get them, too! Face it! We Americans have to learn EVERYTHING the hard way.

 

Idk about that. I've read reports that the Americans are considering shooting down any North Korean missile tests. Also, the THAAD system won't be in place in South Korea until early May.

 

How many slow C-130s do we have to deliver them to the dug in artillery positions?

 

History certainly supports your conclusion.

 

Too many:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Air_Force_airlift_squadrons

 

Not this time; with little fat boy moving towards nukes that can reach the US' East coast the americans will no longer tolerate the NK regime any longer.

 

Would have been easier in 52 - better late than never.

 

Once it starts it had better be over fast.

 

That will be their condition to stand by while the US and South Korea wallop Kim. China has a mutual defense pact with DPRK, they fought against the US in the UN effort to defend South Korea, it is expected they would step in if the North were attacked, this is the only reason we've put up with the Kims so long.

The circumstances have changed, it has been a gradual process, but now the situation is different. In the fifties the deal with China made sense, their huge military force and proximity would credibly hold back the US from getting too adventurous applying their "Domino Theory" and containment efforts. That passed long ago, neither Russia nor China are in any strategy for world domination, the US isn't challenging some revolutionary alternative ideology, everyone is interested in plain commerce, but the Chinese are stuck with this antiquated dictatorship they've sponsored for decades as a buffer against US "capitalist imperialism".

Kim is a problem for China because he enhances the risk DPRK will be attacked and China doesn't want this. China wants a stable regime in North Korea, it doesn't need to even be militarily strong since China would defend them. They don't want the successful South Koreans with their glittering cities and prosperous modern citizenry right on their border within sight of envious Chinese, but that would be the logical result of a resumption of hostilities -unless a deal was made to limit the conflict.

 

I believe we have plenty, if not we can make more quite easily. I think bunker busters and MOABs are different but both can take out artillery easily. Our technology has improved dramatically since WWII so we shouldn't have the same problems.

 

Artillery hidden on deep tunnels through solid rock is hard to take out, and that artillery will need to be taken out within minutes if war breaks out. Okinawa was a nightmare. If the Japanese commander had not made the mistake of ordering an assault on the stalled American positions it would have been even worse. That assault revealed the positions of most of the guns. The NORKs have been tunneling through rock for over half a century.

 

Wikipedia got 165 footnotes where their information comes from, saying the CIA is fully behind the coup against of an elected president. That, and all kinds of major news sources, like The Guardian. So it's just childish and trolling to deny this.

The CIA got the Iranian army on their payroll to make a coup.... like the mafia taking over the law enforcement, judges and jury members to corrupt the government for decades. Add to that, the ability to lock up and torture people who got a problem with that. And here you go downplay the actions of the scum of the earth.

Oh plenty of Iranians liked that fascist rule when it was around, since they were part of that system.
Always nice to hear such an "opinion"

 

Everything is more advanced since WWII, bunker busters can cave in the tunnels making artillery there useless. Our intelligence has improved dramatically since WWII as well, I am sure we know where they all are.

 

I certainly hope you are right, but if they are able to start shelling Seoul the NK military should be nuked fast.

 

We won't need to nuke NK at all. We have plenty of conventional weapons we can use to do the same thing.

 

That will take days, weeks or months. If even 50 guns open up on Seoul there will be mass casualties.
NK has apparently concealed over 10,000 guns within range of an urban population center with over 20,000,000 civilian targets.

 

How do you know how much artillery North Korea has, do you work for their government or do you work in the CIA?

 

Google it. Military experts who have been stationed in Korea and war gamed a war with NK have stated that there are over 10,000 heavy guns targeting Seoul.

 

Oh yea, if it's on the internet it has to be true.

 

Yes, often just as true as what you find in the NYT and WaPo. You can find interviews with high ranking officers who have served in Korea recently and watch them. I have yet to hear one say that NK can be prevented from slaughtering a significant part of the civilian population of Seoul without resorting to the use of nuclear weapons.

Do you oppose the use of nuclear weapons to take down the NK military quickly?

 

Nothing on the internet is legally required by law to be true.

I probably wouldn't oppose the use of nukes in NK but China might. Maybe we could use a cruise missile equipped with a large yield nuclear warhead, fly it in hugging the terrain so it can't be seen by radar and hit North Korea's nuclear site. Then we could say they made a mistake working on their nuke and blew themselves up.

 

There can never be a guarantee that anything people, including "experts" say is true regardless of the law. Even perjury happens - often.

Your plan is good, but "plausible deniability" never works well for the USG.

 

Sure it does, if there

Sure it does, if there is no proof, we didn't do it.

 

How did that work for JFK after the Bay of Pigs.

 

Don't know what he has to do with this discussion.