What Don't You Like About The Gay Community?

Its not that high. Not to mention its ZERO% chance when the two are of the same sex. Isnt it revealing, AFTER gay marriage is ruled unconstiuional using the argument that mariage isn limited to men and women because only they procreate, and the evidence is that not all heterosexual couples are capeable or willing to procreate and yet we allow them to marry, they dont bat an eye to exclude ALL closely related couples of any combination of sexes, because they might procreate.

 

Not sure of the relevance of your point.

 

First cousins marrying used to be very common, particularly in the South. This is still legal in some states.

 

No, it doesn't come into play past age 50s. It starts becoming a significant factor in age mid-30s range. Incest couples having children is rare. Women in their late 30s thru early 40s is not. However, there is no social stigma and certainly nor laws against it.

Where inbreeding starting taking a real toll is if it is multi-generational as you noted.

 

The media has been so absolutely insistent on using "gay," that to use "homosexual" is considered a hate slur by some, though using heterosexual is just fine. PCism out of control to the point that truth is all but forbidden. Curiously, "lesbian" is acceptable about women, but not homosexual about men.

 

I never use the term "gay" when referring to homosexuals. The left deliberately alters the language. Abortion isn't murder, it's "choice". Changing definitions and terms to make the agenda palatable. I'm very gay today, thanks.

 

That's funny, because I prefer the term homosexual to gay.

 

Since you asked,, lol. I really have no problem with gay people and them having equal rights but that is not what they are after. They demand acceptance and approval and that has to be earned. Not demanded. I do have a question. Why do the gay feel the need to broadcast the fact that they are gay. I mean you don't hear people saying in a conservation that they are straight. Even on internet games you'll hear someone saying ,,, I'm gay. Do they really think thats something people need or want to know? I really don't get it. To me what goes on behind closed doors should stay behind closed doors.

 

Why do you speak (idiotically so) as thought you have observed or surveyed ALL people who are homosexual? You sound BOGUS, starting off.

So much for interacting with, 'the interlocutor'.

Goobye, Slinker1.

 

I grew up in the deep south in the 50's and 60's. You know, where everyone is supposedly a hateful bible beating bigot? Well ...

There were plenty of gay people, everyone knew who they were, and since they didn't go banging drums about it, nobody cared. They tended to be very successful business people for some reason, and nobody boycotted their businesses either. We did say and think things like "he's a little funny," and we told "queer" jokes, but they stayed.

I really don't know what happened to get everyone at each others' throats over it, but I think Elton John was right when Ellen DeGeneres came out: "Okay, we get it, you're gay. Now shut up about it."

 

I've had a long essay in my head about this for years, but I don't have time now, so I'll just start a fight.
I think most gays, especially people like Ellen and Rosie, are straight.

 

This helps explain your "bizzare" reference to the SCOTUS and marriage on a horror thread in the tv/movie section.

 

That's rather interesting. If you don't mind me asking what makes you think that?

 

Straight people people don't announce their orientation because 1. it is assumed because 90% are. 2. They use other visual or oral cues instead of the word.

Straight folks do not leave their orientation behind closed doors. I know who is dating who, who is holding who's hand, who kissed who goodbye at the bustop, who gave the sparkly ring to who, who's photo is sitting on the workdesk and who is sent the pretty bouquet or valentine to Sally. I know all those things because straight people do not see their orientation as private at all. When I tell you I am gay, I am not discussing what happens in my bedroom. That is where YOU decide to put your imagination when I use the word. You need to stop thinking sex, and start thinking love, romance, commitment, engagement and spouse when you hear the word. Its how you stereotype what you hear that determines your reaction. You don't realize it but maybe you do have a problem with gay people, who aren't sufficiently closeted for your comfort level.

 

Maybe I can do this in short spurts.
Rosie and Ellen are not ugly, but they're your 23rd choice for a prom date.
If the following is not true of them it surely is for many others.
In high school the only dates they had were in one of 2 categories:
Boys who thought their unpopularity would make them eager for sex with anyone who wanted it (wrong because they were nice girls).and
Boys so unpopular they thought they'd be compatible (also wrong because they were smart enough to know that was why).
One real lesbian at any high school could convert 10 such lonely girls and find her way to intimacy the same way a nice man would (by really being nice to them).

 

So you are saying they are actually bisexual out of convenience?

 

If you wish to focus on those 2 women rather than probe my reasoning that might work better for observers.
We now have the new option for people in show business and flashy professions like fashion: career advancement.
Unlike actors and athletes, comedians don't suddenly have 500% more lovers after they start appearing on tv 12 minutes a month. It wouldn't have helped a young actor in 1992 to be seen dating Rosie, so her new options were seedy comedians. We also now know that she's a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), and had anger management problems since childhood. With her body less desirable than most in Hollywood only real love might have gotten her a good man, and there were too many turnoffs to make that likely. Also her comedy was universal and clean, not stimulating and her daytime show was dull. She could have disappeared by 2000 unless she did something that would guarantee her a niche audience for life.
Who's the most famous straight, homely female 53=year-old female comedian?

 

I have thought from time to time that some "gay" people were straight but just gave up on finding a person of the opposite sex to mutually fall in love with or find attractive, but it's just a theory and probably not a very good one LOL.

 

Well I know your orientation and I didn't need to see a photo from your wallet! Your post was a fun read, I'll give you that

 

Does the reasoning make sense?

 

No. You can't 'convert' anyone's orientation, whether they are lonely or not, popular or not, ugly or not. Orientation does not work like that. Maybe you are confusing an episode of sexual exploration in high school or a trial experience with an inherent orientation that is established long before High School. Nobody is gay because they are seen as unpopular, are lonely or are ugly and thus are needy and desperate for affection.

 

You presume biology with no evidence as yet. You also presume an active sex life in these persons.
We can only guess how often any individual indulges their inclinations. Has there been a control study among people who decided years after puberty and with limited experience which way to go and how frequently they have sex even with a lifetime partner versus those who never had a doubt?
I also have a problem with the word orientation.
You get oriented into something not by craving it but by doing it. In young people the best word might be inclination.
My family has some alcoholics and many drunks. By your reasoning I'd be born alcoholic, but you can't become alcoholic until you drink a lot and I never did.
I think any baby has an equal chance to end up in any category, but events early in life will favor one or the other.
Society favored straightness until recently and the percentages seemed overwhelming. As society has worked toward equality the numbers are changing, but the fact remains that most lesbians make no effort to look attractive and most gay men take on other characteristics that would repel both possible straight male friends and women seeking lovers.

 

I did not say biology. I said early. I suspect that there is a genetic predisposition, but that does not preclude an early environmental impact that may sometimes be decisive, but virtually every expert in the field, asserts this is pretty much a done deal long before puberty hits. I do not presume an active sex life. There is no reason to. Sexual drive, sexual experience and sexual orientation are all separate matters.

Do not confuse a the lay term and use of orientation, with the clinical use we are talking about here. Your sexual orientation is definitely not something you acquire through use. Virgins have a sexual orientation. Celibate priests and nuns have a sexual orientation. Sexual expression may help to open your eyes, and alleviate some denial or confusion, but the orientation is already there. Fog may keep you from clearly seeing the road you are driving on, and you may accidently take a detour if the map is wrong, but the roads and the signs and the towns are not moving around as you drive.

A highly sexual lifestyle may both reflect a high sex drive, and result in sexual addiction but again none of that should be confused with the orientation issue. You are going to have to cite some studies/linksto show these 'facts' about lesbians not caring about their appearance and I don't even know what you are talking about with respect to gay men and their unpopular characteristics.

 

I am trying to understand why you made such a statement, and the reasoning behind it. I don't know anything about those two women. And the observer observese what transpires regardless of consideration.

That's all fascinating speculation but what is the reasoning behind it, other than a dislike for Rosie O'Donnell?

 

First of all, I'm closer to the middle than you might think. by age 5 I was passionately interested in pretty girls, though my only thoughts were kisses and interacting regularly. (Until age 8 I assumed they had penises but knew of only one use for the device). i was also attracted to a few boys with feminine faces.
My mother cured me of that with one sentence, and thanks to the internet I now know the exact date it happened.
I'm so straight that I can get interested in some very unattractive women if any small body part is intact. Good clothing tends to cover many flaws (unlike cosmetics which are a turnoff on anyone). The lesbians I've met dress like boys, have boys haircuts and could fool me unless their breasts are too big.
The famous gays wear flashy clothes, hair gel and bracelets. I consider those effeminate characteristics and that's also a turnoff.
If I was gay I don't think I could find a compatible man.
Now if it is biological, does that mean the inclination to dress or look that way is also biological, or are they just seeking or seeking to avoid attention the same way straight people might?