What has provoked the young rioters who have burned and looted towns in England?

Years of liberal dogma have spawned a generation of amoral, uneducated, welfare dependent, brutalised youngsters

"They are an absolute deadweight upon society, because they contribute nothing yet cost the taxpayer billions. Liberal opinion holds they are victims, because society has failed to provide them with opportunities to develop their potential.

Most of us would say this is nonsense. Rather, they are victims of a perverted social ethos, which elevates personal freedom to an absolute, and denies the underclass the discipline — tough love — which alone might enable some of its members to escape from the swamp of dependency in which they live."

 

This is a duplicate thread, isn't it?

 

These discussions were also very revealing.

 

Not that I am aware of.

What makes you say that?

Is this comment all you have to offer?

No one cares anymore. No wonder society is in the sad state it is in!



Liberals want the good life for themselves and not for future generations of young Americans. If we don't cut the growth in entitlement spending, there will be nothing left for future generations of Americans. All of our taxes will go to pay the interest on the gargantuan federal debt! ... If we can turn around the Democrats and get them to adopt a rational spending philosophy instead of the idea that they can spend any amount of money they want with no consequences whatsoever, this will be a victory for all of us who have not yet retired and for future generations of our sons and daughters!

 

There is a lengthy thread running based on the same newspaper article.

 

I haven't seen it.

Please include the link.

James Cessna

 

There are several dynamics going on, IMO.

A lack of morals and ethics among the young.
Anarchists who are very active in London, infiltrating the riots.
Crimes of opportunity.
Social media driven flash mobs.

There's also a large amount of ethnic involvement there and the same ethnicity behind the flash mob violence here.

The principle difference is that in England, the socialism mindset is making it worse, and the anarchists are upping the game.

I am NOT wrong about this.

 

Thieving and a lack of fear of the law.

 

No, JIMV, it is much more than that.

These kids are the product and outgrowth of the permissive, liberal establishment.

"So there we have it: a large, amoral, brutalised sub-culture of young British people who lack education because they have no will to learn, and skills which might make them employable. They are too idle to accept work waitressing or doing domestic labour, which is why almost all such jobs are filled by immigrants."

 

No you are not, Trinnity. You are very correct and yuor comments are right on!



Here is an angry face and destructive behavior only a mother can love! Mayor Michael A. Nutter, telling marauding black youths in Philadelphia, “you have damaged your own race,” imposed a tougher curfew Monday in response to the latest “flash mob” — spontaneous groups of teens who attack people at random on the streets of the city’s tourist and fashionable shopping districts.

“Take those God-darn hoodies down, especially in the summer,” Mr. Nutter, the city’s third black mayor, said in an angry lecture aimed at black teens. “Pull your pants up and buy a belt ‘cause no one wants to see your underwear or the crack of your butt.”

 

Blackberry helpin' cops track young rioters...

Blackberry Helps UK Police Track Flash Mobs
August 13, 2011 - A media watchdog says who want to identify rioters in London and other cities through their smartphones.

 

Same guys rioting in Philly?

 

This thread shouts ********** all over it. The conservative party is in control of parliament, it's there cut backs that have lead to this.

You do realize most of the kids are looting for there parents right? How do you think so many are allowed to run a muck.

 

So you attribute a mass lack of proper parenting as the fault of the Government???

 

The people are out of work, angry over the lack of regional social programs, and the dense population pancaked in small area's so the wealthy can have there space and private property.

The public needs not to recognize parliament as a government nor should rioters negotiate with a terrorist state.

Reports of rioters in the UK media are bias and gestapo in behavior, reports almost non existent in US.

 

There is some truth to this. Many poor people in the rural areas of the UK are being driven into the cities while the bankers and politicians buy up the rural properties for vacation homes. I can understand the resentment and anger the resides in the underclasses of the UK, BUT THEY ARE NOT STARVING. They have access to clean water, education, clothing, shelter and food. Rioting and such behavior should be reserved for Egypt, Syria and Libya. NOT the UK.

Parliament is a legitimately elected democratic body, the poor can vote too ya know? As long as they can, there is no reason for revolt or riotous behavior and social disorder! There is no injustice here. Just "I want!"

It's one thing to question Op eds and opinion pieces and blogs as "propaganda". It is not okay to question actual news reporting of events as they happen on the ground through interviews with witnesses and such.

You and I may argue all day about whether for instance the NYT is "leftist propaganda", but if the NYT busted a story about how a Republican Governor was engaged in some kind of nefarious activity I wouldn't deny the story is true just because of the source.

 

This is the inevitable result of a combination of the nanny state (which is running out of money) and a lack of morals and ethics. The parents are to blame for that.

 

You are very correct, Trinnity.

As usual, Your remarks are very sincere, directly to the point and well crafted!

The problem today is we have way too much socialism and way too little capitalism. This is why the unemployment rate (9.2%) in our nation continues to remain so stubbornly high.

As a result, this is where we find ourselves today.

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Come off it. The majority of the cuts have not even been implemented yet.

 

If we're going to bash liberals, let's do a little conservative bashing too.

Enron was beloved of free marketeers. Enron itself preached the wisdom of free markets and deregulation, just as modern conservatives do, and they spent millions on spreading their gospel. The interesting part is they imploded almost overnight because of the way the handled the free market and deregulation, through sheer exploitation without regard to consequences. This should have come to no surprise to anyone. Give a mindless powerful beast free reign, and it will devour you. But Enron was only one example. Since the time of Enron, we have seen the template repeated over and over until its predatory ramifications virtually destroyed the economy of the entire world in mid 2008.

But have conservatives learned their lesson? No. They preach it even more now than then. Mindless Darwinism combined with idealistic lawnlessness is somehow supposed to be the best of all possible worlds.

"This [the rioting in Britain] is the inevitable result of a combination of the nanny state (which is running out of money) and a lack of morals and ethics. The parents are to blame for that."

The dismal economic situation the entire world finds itself in is the inevitable result of economic Darwinism as espoused by conservatives and neoliberals.

Which is worse? The latter obviously. The teenagers of Britain are not capable of destroying the world economy for the sole purpose of feeding greed.

 

There's an assumption that these people think. I was chatting with a murderer and I asked him why he had the young store clerk kneel on the floor and shot him in the head. He thought a moment, grinned, shrugged, and said, "Why not?"

We are seeing what the liberals wanted. A mass of people who are unemployed and have absolutely no intention of ever working. A smaller mass of people paying more and more taxes to support the deadbeats.

 

'Conservatism' in Britain seems to mean almost a completely different thing to what it means in the USA. Here, it's much more moderate. I guess if you were a cynic you could call it 'watered down'. I consider myself a Conservative party supporter and I'm pretty shocked at how hopelessly right-wing many American conservatives appear to be.

 

Parents or kids, but I repeat myself.

 

"The youth of Britain have long placed a de facto curfew on the old, who in most places would no more think of venturing forth after dark than would peasants in Bram Stoker's Transylvania. Indeed, well before the riots last week, respectable persons would not venture into the centers of most British cities or towns on Friday and Saturday nights, for fear—and in the certainty—of encountering drunken and aggressive youngsters. In Britain nowadays, the difference between ordinary social life and riot is only a matter of degree, not of type. "

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903918104576504033881168802.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

 

What caused the riots during the French Revolution or, for that matter, the American Revolution? A corrupt and greedy ruling class that has 'entitled' themselves to the nation's wealth by spouting platitudes and tritisms that have no real meaning or practicality, that's what. God Save the King!