What if Zimmermann Walks?

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  1. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Hey it could have been Santa Claus as far as that witness is concerned. Her testimony is pretty much useless now anyway.

    But I will say the police accounts of time are just as questionable as anybody's as far as I am concerned. Why would they list Trayvon's ear plugs as contents of his pocket when they weren't in his pocket? I don't expect what the police report to be absolutely correct anyway. They could have just as easily gotten the time frame mixed up or rounded up or down to the minute. You could be mistaken again also so who knows for sure.
     
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    So what you are REALLY saying is that you have been shown to invent facts and now have to run away. That's OK, no problem.
     
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    ROTFL!!!! Okay doom, I just read the rest of your post and as I predicted, you still try to squirm some way to say it isn't proven Z kept looking for T.

    Your justification is Z went to look at a street sign. Really? Z needed to go read a street sign on a street he has been doing regular NW patrols on in a gated community he has lived at and visited for years.

    I guess it's possible. I've heard about towns who go out and secretly take down street sign names and put up different street sign names as part of weekly transportation duty. That explains why Z needed to go read the street sign.........lol.......have fun with your games of denying the facts at all costs.
     
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    You asked for proof Z's dad said Z kept looking for T and I gave two different links so that is proof I didn't invent any facts. You ignored those links altogether.

    The best part? Your credibility is such a joke any accusations of dishonesty coming from you are laughable.
     
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    It's perfectly reasonable he was going to look at the address. I don't know for sure but I haven't seen anything that proves different. You seem to be guessing again.
     
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    I already explain the headphones bit happened because the inventory report was written a week after the shooting. The discovery evidence file has the time stamps from the Seminole County sheriff's office for the calls and of course you wouldn't know that because you don't actually read evidence.

    Her testimony is not useless because what she said is corroborated by at least one other witness not to mention the location of the shooting.

    But to you, anything from any eyewitness, medical report or police report that doesn't help Z is useless.
     
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    You said he went to look at a STREET SIGN.

    When I show how stoopid that is you pretend you didn't say STREET SIGN and change to ADDRESS.

    The really bad part? Even your dishonesty doesn't help your position. Since Z did not think T was staying there why would he look for an address to give to the police?????????

    Lol.......too easy...
     
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    No, I read the articles you linked but it says the same thing. Let's be clear. The "not following the 911 operator's advice" comes from Z not running back to his truck immediately. Instead he went to find an address, take a leak, go buy some Skittles, or whatever you want to assume. Fact is no one knows if he specifically went to "hunt Trayvon like a rabid dog" or not. Of course you and Al Sharpton want people to believe other wise.
     
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    Did I say STREET SIGN? Quote me or prove yourself a liar.
     
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    I don't care if you personally think I am a liar but I will prove you said it so others understand why your credibility is gone:

    From post 371:
    "... he walks to read the STREET SIGN he was asked about, and that is how he meets Trayvon."

    Yes I added all caps to those two words. Now you can complain that I changed what you said.....lol....
     
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    Way back in March at the first press conference a reporter asked why it was okay for Z to ignore the advice of dispatch and keep looking for T. The Chief said the advice was not a legally binding order so Z did not break a law by not following the advice.

    Do you understand it was proven at the very beginning of this case by the Chief of Police Z kept looking for T after dispatch said not to???

    Here you are more than two months later trying to claim something has not been proven that was proven at the very beginning. Lol.....keep embarrassing yourself man.....
     
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    Why did you selectively quote me? Do you work for NBC or something? Here is what I said not out of context:

    Notice how I wrote ACCORDING TO ZIMMERMAN. I never said he went to read a street sign. I was stating his account.

    Oh you make me chuckle with your creative writing but be careful. You know what they say about weaving tangled webs!
     
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    But what are they referring to? The fact he didn't run directly back to his truck? It still isn't known for sure what Z did after the 911 call. Listening to the 911 call you can tell Z stopped running. Who knows what he did after he hung up. I haven't seen anywhere that proves he continued "hunting" T and you can't produce any proof of that either.
     
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    Are you really this desperate??? You asked me to quote where you said street sign so I did. You play semantics and say you were only citing Z. Once again, even your dishonesty proves your dishonesty.

    You first said Z said he was going to look at the street sign.

    When I pointed out how dumb it was Z would need to look at a street sign you respond with saying:

    Doom
    " It's perfectly reasonable he was going to look at the address."

    Tell us again how you didn't change it from "street sign" to "address." Seriously, your credibility is so low you can't do any more damage by continuing to be dishonest.
     
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    Just admit it you got busted again. Creative writing and conspiracy theory are your strong points.

    Address, Street Sign, take a leak, buy some Skittles pick one. No one knows for sure so any of these options are a possibility.
     
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    I have pointed out at least twice back in March the Chief stated Z did not break any law when he ignored the advice of dispatch.

    The lead detective said the situation was avoidable if Z had followed the advice of dispatch.

    The affidavit charging Z with M2 points out he ignored the advice of dispatch.

    Your agenda is so deep you repeatedly ignore the facts right in front of your face.

    I even quoted Z's dad saying he went to look for an address after he lost sight of T and that is when T supposedly confronted Z. Are you aware he was not on the phone with dispatch when he and T began arguing?

    You already admitted Z had stopped walking while on the phone with dispatch. That means he was not looking for anything while on the phone. That proves it was only after he got off the phone he continued to look for the street sign or address or chocolate cookies or whatever you changed it to again. His dad said after he lost sight of T he went to look for an address. We know he lost sight of T on the phone. We know he stopped walking while on the phone. That means he was looking for the address after he got off the phone. Go ahead and say there is no proof of that again.....
     
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    I got busted? I just proved you changed it from street sign to address and you say I am the one that got busted. What a freaking joke your posts have become.
     
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    There are only three streets in the whole complex.. Z was patroling most nights so he would have known the names of the streets.
     
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    Well again, opinion. But You are the one claiming that Z followed T right up until the confrontation like this is a proven fact. I say you are guessing. I mean I could be wrong but when the lead investigator claims, under oath, he has no evidence to prove Z wasn't walking back to his car I tend to take this as truth:


    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1204/20/cnr.02.html

    Maybe you need to call Angela Corey and fill her in.
     
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    GILBREATH: I have nothing to indicate he did not or did not to that.

    That seems pretty clear to me.. in other words "no way of knowing"........

    I wonder if Zim was following him to find out where he lived or if he was going out the back gate????
     
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    Does it matter? Was there a court ordered no contact order issued between Z and T? No? then Z can go where he (*)(*)(*)(*) well pleases, including chasing after a black guy in the dead of night and if that black guy decides to hit first, he's a violent thug criminal who takes his own life into his hands.

    This is why you shouldn't assault people no matter how angry at them you get, you might just get shot for your trouble.
     
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    2 min. 53 sec: The time between the end of George Zimmerman's call (to police) at 7:13:28 and the first sounds of struggle at 7:16:11.

    4 min. 53 sec: The time between when Trayvon Martin started running towards the back entrance at 7:11: 28, presumably headed to Ms. Green's home (where he was staying), and 7:16:11, when the first sounds of a struggle are heard in the first 911 call. ...

    Where was George Zimmerman and what was he doing during the almost 3 minute period between the end of his non-emergency call and the time he and Trayvon Martin encountered each other?

    Where did Trayvon Martin go and what was he doing during the almost 5 minute period between when he ran past GZ's car until they encountered each other?


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    http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/5/29/04041/8193
     
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    TRayvon was shot at 7:16 PM.. Do you consider that the "dead of night"?
     
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    If Zimmerman walks , he will be the luckiest guy to have ever served 10 or more years and escaped without having had his legs smashed .
     
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    The stuff you imagine isnt info.
     
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