What if Zimmermann Walks?

I agree with you on all points.

 

Really, if you study the history of America you would find differently from what you think. The country was founded on violence.

 

That's ridiculous. Zimmerman could follow CLOSELY and not have it be any justification for assault. TONS of people could legally assault others if that rationalization was used.

That isn't apparent at all. The evidence of the 911 tape indicates that Zimmerman lost Martin, and Martin then found Zimmerman. Your scenario doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

If you were my attorney, I'd fire you on the spot.

 

As far as I know of Florida law a person can still claim self defense even if they start a fight. This fight escalated to Zimmerman being pinned to the ground by Martin. It hasn't been proven that Martin was doing so for his own self defense, that would be hard to do anyway. Everything the prosecution has so far is riddled with reasonable doubt. They brought the charges so they have the burden of proof. I agree with Alan Dershowitz who said "any reasonable jury will find not guilty".

 

You are missing a key piece from the 911 tape.

The operator asked Zimmerman what his home adress was and he was too fearful that Trayvon would over hear.. so he much have thought he was very close.

 

That's nearly psychotic conjecture on your part. I didn't get anything even near that from the tape.

 

911 dispatcher:

OK, do you live in the area?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, yeah, I live here.

911 dispatcher:

OK, what’s your apartment number?

Zimmerman:

It’s a home. It’s 1950 – oh, crap, I don’t want to give it out – I don’t know where this kid is [inaudible] [3:40]

 

He didn't even know where Martin was! How the fock close could he have been!??!

 

The Destoryers find another path.

When did a Latino become "white" against "black."

How does a traded out soul like zim or like the your black man, understand the confusion sold to him by the rich banking elites, who hate God, who love self, and are willing to do anything for business, they think they own. The human race is being suckered. But there are always idiots who comply. People are people, good is good and evil is evil.


WAKE THE HECK UP! UNDERSTAND THE GAMES!! AT HAND!!!!

THIS IS THE WORLD, and All will be fooled. Except those that see past the tricks.

Can you see past the tricks?, in the world? THE MSM CAN'T, it is owned by the world, and all they can say is I was trying to help.

HELP WHAT VAPOR!!!!!! VAPOR!!!

Sorry not pointed at you, but pointed at evil, in front of us that always says, its for the Children, while they rape them, murder them, destroy them.


Sorry out of the box, just talking out of TV.

 

Go back and read.

 

When the courts fail the people prevail.

 

He was not "appointed" anything. He volunteered.

M2 in Florida is not as high of a bar as in many other states. All prosecution has to show is a depraved mind and reckless regard for human life the moment the gun was fired. Between Z's lies, the range of the shot, the witness who saw only one person moments before the gun was fired, and Z's recorded profiling, it will not be that hard. Especially with witnesses saying how non chalant Z was right after the shooting.


However, we do know Corey has said she has special evidence that shows why she filed for M2 but that has not been released yet. I also wonder what is on Z's text messages.

 

So you can't show where anyone formed an opinion without evidence. I can. I can point to countless posts claiming as fact Z had broken nose and now that all the records are out, the best you have is speculation from Z's family doctor and his speculation is not supported by the objective evidence of the EMS report or the pictures of Z's face taken at the police station.

As far as race, it is your camp that has been obsessed and dishonest as well. For some dumb reason you thought if you falsely claimed Z was not white it would make a difference.

 

They don't have to ask her to guess what was going on to prove Z lied. That is the best part.

 

Evidence your own claim is BS. If he didnt even know where the kid was, OBVIOUSLY he was no where near enough to overhear a phone conversation. But that fertile imagination can esily overcome such obvious contradictions between reality and the reality you have imagined.

 

It is nicely supported by the EMS who speculated that his nose was likely broken. So we have both reports from the EMS and dr that his nose was likely broken and here you are speculating that his nose was NOT broken. One opinion is supported by all the evidence, yours is contradicted by all the evidence.

 

I read the PDF file of the ems report and it never speculated his nose was likely broken. Why don't you link the ems report that says it was????

Here is a link for the ems report:

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/05/17/new-documents-shed-light-on-trayvon-martin-killing/

Just click on "EMS Report" in the article to download the PDF file.

 

I couldn't help notice something very strange in this article:

"Many of the pertinent questions remain unclear: What was in Zimmerman's mind when he began to follow Martin in the gated community where he lived?"
http://nation.foxnews.com/trayvon-m...200-page-document-release-trayvon-martin-case

That can't be a serious question. How do journalists get away with making such blatantly false claims? Based on Z's recorded words, we know the answer.

 

As noted it would be up to a jury to decide. The criteria for "assault" is whether there was reasonable cause to believe that one individual was causing a threat of personal harm to another individual. The criteria for "aggravated assault" is that if an "assault" did occur and the individual that committed the assault had a deadly weapon then it is aggravated assault (under Florida law).

There is no evidence on the 911 transcript that Zimmerman ever lost visual contact with Martin.

http://phoebe53.wordpress.com/2012/03/26/zimmerman-911-call-transcript-trayvon-martin/

Zimmerman's attorney is going to be presented with the evidence under "discovery" and if his attorney believes there is a reasonably chance that the jury will conclude that Zimmerman committed "aggravated assault" against Martin which would lead to a 2nd degree murder conviction with a 25 yr to life prison sentence he really should recommend trying to reach a plea bargain on voluntary manslaughter charges with a possible 5-7 year prison sentence. The attorney's job is the do his best for the client and I'm sure Zimmerman's attorney will do that. It will be Zimmerman's ultimate decision but the attorney should evaluate the evidence so that Zimmerman can be informed before making any decision.

 

Zimmerman's book will be called:

"How I got away with Murder"

 

There is evidence Z lost visual on T because on the recorded call he says he doesn't know where T is when the operator asks Z for his home address. The specious claim was subdermal saying "Martin found Z" when we know for a fact it was Z looking for T and not the other way around.

There is no chance in hell Corey will offer any type of soft plea so this is going to trial because Z's attorney knows he has nothing to lose.

 

The facts of course.

 

True enough, especially after the last case with the woman who lost her SYG defense. She was actually hit by her husband. Thought she would win her trial and ended up with 20 years. She was offered a 3 year plea deal. I'd be changing my underwear after hearing about that case if I was Zimmerman.

 

Hey Dixon, what was your source for saying the EMS stated his nose was likely broken? We know it can't be the EMS Report because that has been provided. Since you didn't give a link to your claim I am guessing your source was so biased you were too embarrassed to link it.

If you have an EMS Report that contradicts the one I linked, please share so we may all have chance of being equally informed.

 

I think there is a good chance this will never go to trial because Z will commit suicide while out on bail. He knows he lied and he knows it doesn't matter if he is acquitted or not. He will never be able to live a life without daily fear regardless of the verdict. His one bullet ended an innocent life and created his own lifetime prison, irrespective of his mailing address.