What in the hell did you expect...

But it is.

I work at a gas station. My brother who is 14 months older than me and raised in the same household in the same conditions with the same opportunities.... Owns his own screen and aluminum business and he is pretty wealthy by most people's standards.

The difference is he applied himself much more seriously than I did.

The same can hold true for anyone.

It Is by no accident that either one of us are where we are in life at this point. It's not the fault of society.

 

The problem is that labour is perishable. If you don't sell your labour it is wasted. If higher paying jobs were available to them, why wouldn't they take those jobs? If the pay for full time work isn't enough to survive on, then that is wage slavery.

Universal basic income would offset this and then these same workers would be coming from a position with some measure of bargaining power instead of being exploited for being desperate and literally at risk of starvation without the jobs.

 

Clearly it is.

 

That is insane. And I am saying that as a lefty liberal. I am guessing they are very fringe.

 

If anyone starves in America, they are choosing to.

In addition to welfare there are tons of charitable organizations offering soup kitchens and food pantries across the entire nation.

 

I am not convinced. Do you have a source I can read showing the above is true? There is enough help out there to ensure nobody starves in America? Does that also apply to shelter? If so I didn't realize America was that socialist.

 

So improving their skillset, known as employment value, costs them what? Time and labor. No $$. Basically, you are making excuses why someone can't do anything to improve their position. And that has been proven false time and time again.

 

If you actually want to know, here is some information. And no charitable organizations are not socialist because they are charitable organizations who do it of their own free will.... Not being forced to by the government.

https://foodbanknews.org/how-many-food-banks-are-there/

 

Some people can and do. Some don't have the intellect, and some are working too hard and long to be able to stop to try to change. As Carlin said, "The American Dream" is called that because you have to be asleep to believe it.

 

I read the link. It doesn't comment on my question. It doesn't say if there is enough help to ensure nobody will starve in America except by choice (which was your claim).

 

So here in the US, the statistics show that less than 2% (closer to 1.5%) of the workforce makes 'just' MW. The demographics are under 25 years old, mostly part time, and some as a second job. The average length of time someone stays at 'just' MW is less than 6 months. Why? Because they could have done a variety of things like improved their skillset so they get a raise from their current boss, found another position making use of their experience to be paid more, found a position doing something completely different after researching it and maybe reading about it at the library or on the internet.

UBI is taking from those who earn it and giving it to those who didn't. Or, another way of looking at it is taking $250 from someone, the government taking $50 in administrative fees, and giving you back $200 and patting themselves on the back.

'Survive on' is a moving target. What it costs one person to 'survive' isn't the same as it costs another person to 'survive'. And to clarify, want and need are not the same thing.

 

Then a great many people must be having a hellova dream....

Of course there will always be those who 'can't' improve themselves, and they already get assistance via housing, food and utilities. My 'Can't' doesn't include those who can, but choose not to, or who have made very foolish choices that become anchors. The majority of people that make bad choices seem to compound them, and why should other people continue to carry that burden?

 

as long as one has a choice

 

I wonder if anyone who ever got caught stealing at the self checkout tried to make their defense that they were only taking their pay for being employed as their own cashier?

 

I know people been charged for accidentally missing ringing up something, is it worth the risk - let a cashier take that risk

 

I usually try to go to a real cashier but sometimes I break down and become Walmarts own unpaid employee.

I don't know if you have circle k gas stations where you are but here those gas stations have started doing the same thing which is absolutely ridiculous. Dollar general is doing it too.

 

Still not.

 

No it hasn't.

 

Clearly its not.

 

It's just no fair. I never went out and put out signs to advertise and busted my ass building that business, and started out with one helper and now having seven full-time employees and a sales manager

That should be my business because life isn't fair...

 

Do ya now? Really..

 

Conduct and consequences are always in an inverse relationship. Consequences limit out of bounds conduct and promote better conditions.
Absence of consequences allow that negative conduct and promote worse conditions.

If you want to live in a safe healthy environment, you have to remove the toxic elements. If you make that conduct too expensive to pursue- it won't be.
And, if you don't start at the low levels, it will quickly grow to a much larger problem at high levels, and be much harder to get under control.
One doesn't have to be a criminologist to understand that; it's the same principle parents must follow if they want to raise good children.
No discipline = no rules. No rules = no control, and that equals- chaos.

 

Evidently that is a concept that is far too hard to grasp for so many of these far left progressive city "leaders"

 

I'm glad you are okay with your tax dollars going to Walmart employees, because they aren't paid enough to survive. I'd rather the individual companies bear the labor costs. Personal choice, for sure. I'd rather people would prefer not sending tax dollars to employees of billionaires.

 

Again, I think that it was a lot of factors that caused the four stores to close. They probably should have closed a few years ago, like in 2016 or 2017 IMO given the fact they never made a profit in 17 years, quite literally, online shopping has continually taken off, and with the advent of apps like DoorDash and Favor where you can quite literally go grocery shopping there too, for a small fee of course. Pro Line addressed the prosecution side in which 30-some-odd states don't prosecute theft unless it is a $1000 or more. That is managing resources along with all the other crimes they prosecute. The DA does not have unlimited funds. Never has. Otherwise, those property taxes would go up, tremendously I might add. Texas, BTW, by statute, has the highest threshold, $2500, where that is a felony and is prosecutable. Anything under that is a misdemeanor and is, for the most part, not prosecuted anywhere in the state of Texas, generally speaking.

So, again, if you take a look at all the facts, not the cherry-picked ones that fit the political paradigm you want to convey.

https://www.themarshallproject.org/...ent-for-theft-depends-on-what-state-you-re-in
https://www.hgclaw.com/2022/02/28/texas-shoplifting-laws/