What in the hell did you expect...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by FatBack, May 10, 2023.

  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Now do a) how many who get convicted actually go to jail rather than a diversion of some type or other and b) of those who do hit the small house, how long do they stay on average for this same class A misdemeanor?
     
  2. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let us know when you are done with your research, and do consider all other States as well
     
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  3. Green Man

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    The solution has been proposed, you don't listen.

    1. Finish high school.

    2. Get a job.

    3. Don't have kids till you are married.

    It's an individual responsibility thing. You probably don't understand.

    And another thing- I met the guy that built Popeye's Chicken franchise when I was building his condo. He bought two units on floor seventeen just so he could watch the Milwaukee fireworks on Independence Day. We tore out a 10'x10' section of concrete deck just to pour it again so he could get heated floor under his hot tub. Nice guy and self-made wealthy. The two units were well over half a million.

    And do you know where he earned his money? - opening restaurants in so-called "Food deserts" - places where McDonald's and supermarkets won't go.
     
  4. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    So innocent people should stay in jail. got it.
     
  5. Cybred

    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    Nope, sorry.
     
  6. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    So those who work at WalMart, should go get jobs at Costco. Again, salable skillset.
     
  7. Collateral Damage

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    I understand that responding on your phone is difficult. Do us all a favor, if you've got nothing besides a drive by 2-3 word response, please don't bother responding to my posts.

    You are incorrect in your position. No employer owes anybody anything above the exchange of labor/intellectual value for payment. As the saying goes, if you don't like what you are being paid, find another job.
     
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  8. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Evidently her office often declines to even prosecute shoplifting charges.


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  9. FatBack

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    No one can deny that theft is rampant on Chicago. The magnificent Mile in particular has been devastated by it.

    But thinking that Walmart closing four out of its eight stores in that area, has anything to do with theft ?

    Now that's just crazy talk...

    Jesus wept..... My people, they perish from a lack of knowledge * facepalm
     
  10. spiritgide

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    In other words, become a kind of employee welfare agency.
    If you liked your jobs and moved when you didn't, then you did the right thing. Unfortunately, many don't, they stay and undermine attitudes and spirit- then get mad when they are fired.

    You should consider that while your employer is your customer- you don't contribute to their social security or provide any benefits at all. Every employer has to do that, and they are an unpaid tax collector for the government as well- will all the responsibilities and potential liabilities.... but zero compensation. There's a great deal of benefits that are financed or performed by employers for employee benefits, and the bottom line is that the owners of a company are last in line. They only get paid if there's anything left, and that only happens if you do a very good job. I started my first business over 50 years ago. I know how it works.
     
  11. Cybred

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    Sorry but a lot of times people aren't able to just find another job.
     
  12. Alwayssa

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    This goes back to the point of who is making the claim about shoplifting in poor areas, to begin with, that it is Lightfoot's fault, even though it has been going on for years, almost two decades, etc. I think you are trying to politicize this to the maximum political advantage you can think of and then use a complete set of different standards when it happens in other parts of the country that does not meet the political views you are trying to create here. And that has been the point by a few posters because what you are saying and what has been reported in general do not jive IMO in a logical sense.

    Walmart has closed stores, has expanded, has withdrawn from countries etc. Even Home Depot, for instance shut down all of its stores in China in the 2010s. The main reason, the Chinese didn't take to DIY projects as much as they thought they would. But Lowes is still there, well in Shanghai and a couple of other cities, last time I checked a couple of years ago. But that is the nature of business. Has nothing to do with politics. You need to look elsewhere.
     
  13. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The "Walmart model" relies on low costs of labor. That's why they have found it doesn't work well in countries with higher costs of labor.
     
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  14. Alwayssa

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    Walmart uses a management style or employee style of "roving sales associates" now. No one has a specific or singular job title. The Walmart I go to, the Custormer Service Desk, which has two or three employees "keep an eye on things" but there is no one in that little area. There used to be a station where an employee would be there. No longer. They took it out two years ago or so. Don't know why. But it was something I noticed. but nowadays, if you need assistance, you hit that call button and an assistant will be with you in a minute or so.

    Walmart uses analytics for its efficiency and evaluations. So, they keep track on where you are at in that part of the store and evaluate each and every time. But there is no one watching or monitoring that area of self-checkouts at all. There are employees around the area of the self checkout, but not in that specific enclosed area in and of itself like in a station. They may be at the Customer Service Desk or may be at the pickup station or somewhere nearby. Thus, Walmart, quite literally, has its store in blocks, and sections. The goal is to have one employee in or near each block based on traffic, foot traffic. The results has been the elimination of about 10% of their floor workforce overall. That is efficiency for you.
     
  15. FatBack

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    I cannot force you to see the glaringly obvious. 4 out of eight stores in that area should be the giveaway.

    Kim Fox often declining to prosecute what is now deemed minor shoplifting of a penny less than $1,000.

    Chicago's miracle Mile has been devastated by theft.

    It's really not that difficult to see the connection. These progressive prosecutors soft on crime approach has a definite real-world effect.

    But according to them crime is going down.... Of course it does when you don't prosecute.... Crime goes down on paper but not in reality
     
  16. FatBack

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    I have yet to ever go into a single Walmart it did not have a customer service associate in the self checkout area at all times. Walmart has also devoted time and resources to combating theft at the self checkouts

    Our local Walmart stopped being 24 hours about 2 years ago and they now close at 11:00 p.m. ( which kind of sucks because I like to do my shopping about 2:00 a.m. so I don't have to deal with a crowded store full of people )

    I'm sure that cuts operating expenses quite a bit
     
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  17. Lee Atwater

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    The local stores Aldi, Lidl, Netto use the same model, but they have taken the "low cost" a notch higher.

    How does Walmart sell cheap in US? They don't deal with brokers, they buy direct from manufacturers. Also, they don't have competition in US. K-Mart is not competing anymore. And of course low operating cost is a big part of it, but labor cost is not the only aspect in that. They save in everything.

    They have stores in 25+ countries, but got outplayed in Germany
     
  20. Collateral Damage

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    What prevents them from finding another job? What prevents them from increasing their salable skillset, and maybe getting a raise from their current employer?
     
  21. Cybred

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    Hanging on to their current situation by their fingernails.
     
  22. Lee Atwater

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    What does reported crime statistics have to do with whether they are pursued and prosecuted?
     
  23. Buri

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    sounds like a self-made problem.
     
  24. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Maybe because it's part of statistics? X number of people convicted of X number of crimes?
     
  25. Cybred

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    But its not.
     

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