What is a REGULAR BULLET?

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What is a regular bullet

  1. One that gun banners claim is less deadly than a .223

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  2. One that is in regular use for hunting and other lawful uses of firearms

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  3. A term that the anti gun side really doesn't want to define

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    It's pretty much common knowledge in the ballistics community that a 9mm has more penetration than a .223.

    Feel free to post sources that disprove that.

    The claim was made that a .223 has too much penetration and a 9mm is better for home defense and that just simply isn't true.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    You're right, the anti-gunners are going to make up whatever bullshit lies they have to.
     
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    The most popularly purchased and widely available bullet in the US is the 9mm FMJ. The second most popularly purchased and widely available bullet in the US is the .223/5.56 FMJ. So technically the most 'regular bullet' overall (if we must reduce ourselves to such a meaningless generality), is the 9mm FMJ, and the .223/5.56 FMJ is the most 'regular' rifle bullet. The .308 is the most 'regular' hunting bullet.
     
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    What a dishonest poll question.

    There's a reason why the AR-15 is so popular. If you don't know why that is, then you don't know what you are talking about. The weapon was designed to kill efficiently....and it should be quite apparent at who the target of that efficiency is designed to kill -- humans.
     
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    I know it was a bullshit anti gun propaganda piece written by clowns who are clueless or dishonest about guns and copied on this board by someone who is virulently anti gun for reasons that have nothing to do with facts concerning firearms
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Absolute BS-it's not designed to kill efficiently-it's designed to be easily and accurately shot. Its cartridge is banned in several states for hunting deer due to its lack of killing power. The cartridge is designed for logistics-soldiers can carry far more of them than the far more lethal main battle rifle cartridges such as the 30-06 7.62 NATO or 8MM. since the purpose of infantry rifles is to suppress movement and inflict casualties a soldier with the the 270 standard issue 556 rounds is better able to do both than a soldier with the 160 rounds that those issued the far more powerful M14 or FN-FAl rifles could carry
     
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    The FMJ is the best selling type of bullet because that's what people purchase for target shooting. Anyone with an ounce of knowledge will use a hollow point round for their EDC ammunition. Except in New Jersey where the idiotic politicians outlawed hollow point rounds.
     
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    So why is it that handguns are more (a LOT more) often used for murder? Design flaw?
     
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    you are more likely to kill an attacker if you use FMJs. You're a smart guy-you know why-let's see if some of the anti gun types can tell us why. BTW Hollowpoints are less likely to ricochet in an urban environment as well
     
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    Virtually every comparison of 9mm JHP, .224 FMJ-BT and buckshot shows about equal penetration in sheet rock. That because the first layer of sheet rock clogs up the cavity of the JHP, and no expansion occurs.

    In ballistic gel or the human body, not the same results.
     
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    Right?
    And so, you'd figure the "well regulated militia" crowd would argue the AR is -exactly- the sort of weapon that should be protected by the 2nd.
     
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    What part of the AR-15 was designed to kill efficiently? The semiautomatic mechanism, which was invented in the 19th century? The boat tail bullet, which was also invented in the 19th century? The .224 caliber bullet, which was first used in 1935 for varmint hunting?
     
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    All calibers we're designed to kill...efficiently...lol

    The 8mm Mauser was designed to kill humans.

    The .577 Minie Ball was designed to kill humans.

    The .69 caliber round ball was designed to kill humans.

    The 9mm was designed to kill humans.

    The 327 Federal was designed to kill humans.

    The .357 Magnum was designed to kill humans.

    It's obvious that you want to ban every-****ing-thing.
     
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    They tell us that every time they compare the US to Japan.
     
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    no fair, you are asking him questions that we all know he cannot answer
     
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    You made my point. It was designed for use in the military. It should not be sold to civilians.
     
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    Please don't ask confusing questions based on logic.
     
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    The first semiautomatic rifle in the US was made in 1903, in .22 LR. It wasn't designed as military rifle. The first semiautomatic centerfire rifle in the US, equipped with a box magazine that held up to 15 rounds was the Remington Model 8 It was designed for hunting. The .224 caliber bullet was first used in the .220 Swift, in 1935, for hunting.
    The .223 Remington was based on the .222 Remington, a hunting cartridge. The Remington model 760, a hunting rifle, chambered in .223 Remington, was sold to civilians before the M16 was used by the US military. The first rifle ever to use a pistol grip was the DELVIGNE PATENT carbine made by LESOINNE ET PIRLOT FILS, LIEGE in 1840. The bullet design was invented in 1898 and adopted by the US for its service rifles in 1925.
    There is nothing unique to the AR-15, other than the bayonet lug, that wasn't used in a hunting rifle before ever being used in an M16 or AR-15. Show that a bayonet on an AR-15 was used to kill more than five people in the last 55 years and I’ll give up the bayonet lug.
     
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    Civilians should only buy far more deadly rounds like 30 06 and 30 30 and 308 and a plethora of other rounds that are ballistically far superior.
     
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    They will just have to live with the fact that the rolling Stones song is a reality...." You can't always get what you want ".
     
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    OMG that is hilarious-FMJ should not be sold to civilians? WTF do you think the Second amendment was designed to protect. DO you even have a clue what types exist?
     
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    You're dealing with someone who has no understanding of firearms or ammunition and thinks if the military uses it-it must be more deadly than say a federal hydra shock round. In reality, military rounds are the least effective for a given caliber due to the Hague Convention
     
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    My question is what if you get an AR-15 chambered in a different ammo say 9 mm.
     
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    What if you do?
     
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    It'll become a carbine I suppose not sure it's still even called an AR or if you can get an AR-15 chambered in other ammunition you can definitely get a gun that looks like one chambered in other calibers. My preference would be for the one that's chambered in 12 gauge just because it's weird and that's what I like. I like the 12 gauge AK-47 looking rifle to just because it's weird.

    But I'm with the OP I don't know what a regular bullet is
     
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