What is single payer?

Yeah they just act like Enron or Lehman Bros, or Wells Fargo....etc or many many more

 

but those are not healthcare companies?? You said you were only a communist about health care?

 

In January 2016, Kindred Healthcare Inc. and its subsidiary RehabCare Group Inc. agreed to pay $125 million to settle a whistleblower lawsuit on Medicare therapy claim overbilling. The settlement ended an investigation into claims brought against the companies by former RehabCare therapists in a 2011 lawsuit. The suit claimed RehabCare routinely scheduled skilled nursing facility residents for higher levels of therapy than needed, resulting in therapy services were not reasonable or necessary, or never occurred. It has subsequently filed for Chapter 11 protection.

 

Vegas giants is an MSM caricature.

 

Insult is the greatest compliment possible on this forum. It signals defeat by the insulter

 

Trump has NEVER stood behind ANY policy he has talked or written about, so yes I'm sure we will keep hearing various stories from Trump. No thinking person voted for Trump because they were confident in some policy he had.

As for health care, he has recently suggested that he will include key ACA provisions such as handling preexisting conditions. Since those features are the most difficult to figure out, I really have no idea what he's going to do. The problem is that he promised to ditch the ACA without having given ANY thought to what would come next.


As for tax free bank accounts, I just have to point out that about half America already doesn't pay tax. So their bank accounts are already tax free.

Plus, remember that this direction depends on people paying for health care and then having enough left over to put into an account to pay for FUTURE health care. Does that sound like it's helping middle America, where health care costs are already significant?


Just in general, Republicans keep coming up with ways for people with significant incomes (the people who can take advantage of these schemes) to pay less taxes - and then they pretend that is a solution for everybody.

Remember that Trump won this election due to support from struggling manufacturing workers - winning even though Clinton got 2,000,000 more votes - just pointing out that he doesn't have some significant population of constituents that he can ignore.

Does ANYTHING Trump has said about health care seem to you like it is helping those struggling manufacturing workers?

 

lol!

That's totally irrelevant and you know it!

The point is that on a per capita basis, Europe and America are producing about the same amount of health care advancement.

You can NOT suggest that the way these European nations fund health care is superior to our method in terms of health care advancement.


In fact, it looks like a few small nations do FAR better than we do. I was being generous to YOU by counting all of Europe.

 

Oh, good LORD!!!

No, capitalism has one objective - profit.

It is true that corporations compete, but they are competing for profit.

It's true that they may have to make customers happy, but they do NOT have to make everyone happy - just enough to maximize profit.

Think about it. Corporations do not have to price food such that poor people can eat. They don't care if poor people are happy. They don't even care if poor people are ALIVE. It's not their job.

 

I agree,
If our taxes really works for us, then it should provide the most basic and crucial need that the taxpayers needs,
Free and dependable healthcare.

 

He's never had a chance to renege on his promises, and quite honestly, I think he is going to renege on a bunch of them. Will Hillary go to prison? Saying that the clintons have suffered enough told me right there that he's not to be trusted.

No, he said he would consider it. I've had a few employers say they would consider hiring me, and I never heard from them again.

yeah, I agree. I don't think his idea on healthcare will be great. I don't know what he will eventually end up with, but he does have a contract with the people who put him in office, and hopefully he figures out that this isn't about contract law, but trust. I'll give him a wait and see approach.

I think he's banking on the free market working its magic. I can see how he would think that, but that would take a lot of time. A lot more than four years, which is probably all he will get. Maybe even less since he has to work with congress to get his ideas passed, and those guys have to work with voters who also trust them.

No, I don't think that's the case. There are no solutions for many people. You either put on your big boy pants and figure out how to survive, or you give up. Those that don't earn enough to survive on their own are going to be left to their own devices, be it a republican or democrat or populist in office.

Getting rid of obamacare does seem like it would help. Lowering corporate taxes also seems like it will help. That ties in with healthcare as well because hospitals pay taxes.

 

actually food clothing and shelter are more important!!

 

thats like saying corporations don't have to price cars so people can drive. Please think before you post

 

Capitalism does not care if you have food or shelter. You could live under a bridge as long as you show up for work to help increase corporate profit

 

actually the more people they make happy the more profit they make. The big money they make comes when the masses can afford stuff not when the first cars for example can only be purchased by the rich. See how easy?

 

Afford it?

Ah, maybe you need to do some research. There are no fees or charges in the Canadian health care system, which is not called "single payer", that's an American phrase. It's called "universal medical care".

You seem to be rejecting something of which you are totally ignorant.

 

It has nothing to do with happiness. They could be totally ripping people off but as long as they get away with it they are a capitalist success

 

What idiocy. You can't be asking a serious question...

Since the US is the wealthiest nation on the planet, I suggest you all pay for the world's sick

 

obviously it does because where you have capitalism you have food and shelter and where you don't you have far less food and shelter. Get it now?

 

Uh....no. Most people who work at Walmart are eligible for food stamps. LOL

 

Well sorry, but American medical care workers demand these things called "salaries". I guess you could call them fees, if you want. Those guys, they just don't want to work for free, like in Canada where they work without fees, charges, or salaries.

If it wasn't for all of those people providing health care in america being all greedy wanting salaries and bonuses, pensions, etc. etc. etc., we could have have a "single payer" system that costs absolutely nothing, as well.

btw: how do you get your healthcare workers to work for free?

 

I don't think anyone would call them a capitalist or communist success for ripping people off or for poisoning them

 

Yeah, when jobs are provided,that's the time that we have to work for those,
we pay taxes to invigorate the economy through policies and build infrastructures for it.

 

do you have any idea what your subject is??

 

We call them capitalist icons while they are doing it. Enron got to name a ball field after itself while it was doing it. LOL

 

any idea what your point is??