What is the "moderate" Muslims' plan to destroy ISIS?

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So, they're all supposed to get a rifle and go off to invade another country just because some people of the same religion they are there are doing something they dislike? Sorry, they're not all Americans and most of the Americans are fat. :roll:

    Really, what CAN they do? If they march they ARE as likely to be attacked as not. You know that's true. This war has taken a very ugly and racist turn right off and I can't help but think that's largely because of the new face conservatism has been showing in this country, where hatred is the way we're SUPPOSED to deal with minorities, and prejudicial stereotyping, even when it makes not sense, and, no, even more there, ESPECIALLY when it makes no sense, is the only accepted method to know who they are.
     
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    By looking at the home page of http://www.cair.com/ one would come to the conclusion that the answer to that question is absolutely, positively NOTHING. Their homepage is more concerned about nixing the Homeland Security aparatus than condemning, on-going, ISIS, and teaching against Islamic supremacism and Jihad. I see no anti-Jihad wording on their homepage, none. Mohammad said Jihad agianst the infidel is the 2nd most important thing for a Muslim.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that we both agree that that religion is terribly immoral, correct? Or do we not agree, and killing Hermione is perfectly ok? Which is it?

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    We both agree that racism is wrong.

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    We both agree that a book saying that they are "god's chosen people", and that their invisible friend gave them that land, is one of the underlying causes of what will likely lead to nuclear WWIII.
     
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    That's not true, there is a large demonstration/march of peace loving Muslims going right by my downtown office window right now waiving signs that say "ISIS: stop emulating Mohammad!", and "Not in our name (pedophilia)!", and "I've removed the Qur'anic verse that says to behead infidels!", and......wait........hold on.....nope......nope......sorry, I'm afraid that was what I recalled from a dream I had last night, and not real. Oh well, I can dream, can't I.
     
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    Can you condemn this Islamic text that says that for a great thing to happen (The Day of Judgement) that Muslims will fight and kill Jews, and that trees can think like people, Margot? A peace-loving person would consider doing that.
    "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (the Boxthorn tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim).Sahih Muslim, 41:6985, see also Sahih Muslim, 41:6981, Sahih Muslim, 41:6982
     
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    So once again you try to put thoughts and words into my mouth, and I am done with it.

    If you can not have a discussion without over and over insisting that others support you when they think you are a jackwagon, we have nothing further to discuss. As I said, your hatred for religion is noted, and this is not the appropriate place to go around spreading your intolerance for others.

    Maybe you should wander over to Stormfront, might be more your style.
     
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    I'm not racist, so that's one reason I'm not on Stormfront.
    I just asked if we can agree that it's terribly immoral to advocate killing witches (like Hermione), what the heck is wrong with that!? If one can't say that killing "witches" (they don't exist) is terribly immoral then I'm afraid we've learned a lot about their morality...or lack thereof (no offense....but condemning killing of witches as terribly immoral seems like a no-brainer to me.) I'm prioritizing morality over being uber politically-correct. I care about Muslims more than you do, since I give them alternatives (MSH), but you don't seem to offer alternatives, you just blast the MESSENGER (me).
     
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    Not "hatred for religion", but "love for religious people by showing them a better alternative". If you can't say that their texts are terribly immoral for saying to kill witches, then you are not very compassionate towards "witches", I'm afraid. I care for them, however.
     
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    I tolerate them fine, I just have a better way for them, that's all. If I was intolerant I'd want, for example, say, Muslims deported like many people do or immigration restrictions just on Muslims (BUT I DON'T WANT THEM DEPORTED OR RESTRICTED - I want them educated, and love them living among us.)
     
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    CAIR was started as a Muslim Brotherhood front, so yes, they won't be doing anything but promoting jihad and dissiminating propaganda in support of that, and making 'political contributions' to candidates for federal office here in the States. Hillary Clinton got caught taking a campaign contribution from them, and trying to hide it on her donor lists as 'The American Museum Council'; she returned the money after a press report, and claimed it was a 'typo' and they weren't trying to hide anything. Sure, right ...
     

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