What is "Truth"?

Three years have passed since this thread was opened and that question has been there the whole time... just waiting to see how many would read it and respond without comprehending what they were doing. The question asked for your 'religious perspective'. You (the Atheists who did respond) provided it. Thereby admitting that you are practicing a religion and confirming that Atheism is a religion.

 

And the Atheists still cannot refute my claims that they have unwittingly declared Atheism to be a religion. This is due to their astute scientific prowess in the area of observation they have subsequently, through their provision of responses to the OP, provided their RELIGIOUS perspective of the term "truth'.

 

And still none of the Atheists or other non-theists who have participated in this thread are willing to step forward and defend their RELIGIOUS belief..errrr... RELIGIOUS perspective about the term 'truth'.

 

Through an act of acquiescence, the Atheists on this forum are finally admitting that Atheism is in fact a RELIGION.

 

And still none of the Atheists will defend their admitted religion. Three years of opportunity to see the error of their ways (providing their religious perspective of the word "truth") and now they are caught in their own acquiesced admission of having a religion.... a religion called Atheism.

 

Time to bump it back to the top again. I am really hoping that some Atheist or even a non-theist by a different label will at least attempt to defend against the acquiesced admission that Atheism is a religion.

 

Hello Atheists that have participated on this thread..... I am inviting you to give a defense to your acquiesced admission that Atheism is a religion. You (those Atheists that have participated) have had 3 years to defend against that closing line in the OP. Silent assent.

 

Come on guys and gals. Surely someone can provide some intellectual response to the acquiesced admission that came about by your participation in this thread and for responding to that final question in the OP. At least give it a try. Of course the Theists on this forum have already been knowing that Atheism is a religion, but so many of you non-theists have for years argued in opposition to what you have acquiesced to Atheism being.

 

Time for another bump, bump.

 

Time for another bump, bump. A lot of readers keep reading this but seemingly no-one wants to accept the challenge.

 

Ditto, ditto, ditto.

 

It becomes increasingly apparent that the non-theists on this forum cannot provide the meaning of the term 'truth' as requested in the OP... It also becomes increasingly apparent that the non-theists on this forum cannot adequately refute the fact that those who have contributed to this thread have acknowledged that Atheism is a religion when they provided their religious perspective on the word "truth".

 

Jesus also says this

I know the thing you do. I wish you were hot or cold.but since you are like lukewarm watter. I will spit you out of my mouth.

Jesus is talking about half assed christians who only believe only part of his teachings according to their convenience.

You either believe all of his teaching or none of it.

Since you are neither hot nor cold you are like lukewarm watter. And you will be spatt out jesus's mouth.....metaphiricly speaking

 

Truth is fact or at least what we consider fact.



truth
tro͞oTH
noun
noun: truth

1 the quality or state of being true.
"he had to accept the truth of her accusation"

synonyms:
veracity, truthfulness, verity, sincerity, candor, honesty; More
accuracy, correctness, validity, factuality, authenticity

"he doubted the truth of her statement"

2 that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality.

synonyms:
what actually happened, the case, so; More
the gospel (truth), the honest truth
"it's the truth, I swear"
fact(s), reality, real life, actuality
"truth is stranger than fiction"

antonyms:
lies, fiction

3 a fact or belief that is accepted as true.

"the emergence of scientific truths"

 

Uh...So?

 

the only reason you think atheism is a religion, is because you dont understand that not skiing is not just another form of skiing.

 

Only you would come up with such a comment when no-one but you is dreaming such things.

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So, you then acquiesce to the fact that Atheism is a religion. OK.

 

Then you are suggesting that 'truth' is a matter of perspective and the perspective of each individual. Very good. Then 'truth' would be ambiguous?

 

So now you are playing the role of Jesus and the sole arbiter of who is "lukewarm water"? How laughably ludicrous.

 

Suffice it to say that most people on this forum would agree with the statement that "not-skiing is not a form of skiing" - except for you, of course. But I can't really be responsible for your faulty thinking.

But funny that you would use the "democracy argument" (ie the argument that if no other people agree with you then that means that you must be wrong), when in fact, your own personal philosophy/religion is held by very few other people. Seems to be the height of hypocrisy, don't you think? But I guess most religious people aren't really concerned with internal consistency, now are they?

 

One can believe in stories from Holy Books all they like desire but that does not make the representations in those stories "Truth", in of itself.

I think you need to expand on what you mean by "Truth" a little better.

If we are trying to answer the question "what did Jesus mean" by "I am the way, the truth, the life" that is something different.

Jesus presented "A way". It was the contents of the message given by Jesus that he claimed was a way to live ones life so that one would gain favor with God".

Jesus claimed his message came from God "Gods honest truth" if you will.

Jesus also claimed that following his message was "the way" to eternal life.

 

truth is something that is correct. One arrives at truth by coming up with ideas and seeing if those ideas are confirmed or rejected by evidence.

 

Why not? I dind come up with it. God did.

I can't imagine a perfect existence like god being wrong or misleading........if I were to believe such things

 

It was truth at one point that Pluto was a planet. It was truth at one point that the Acians were only a society of man. It was truth at one point that the Nile river flowed across the Sahara and emptied into atlantic. When edgar casey told the scientist this in the 40s, it was truth that they discredited him. Only after satellite technology came about that scientist began to think of edgar caseys truth as fact.

Fact is what we perceive to be the nature of things

Truth is something based on that.

Example

What color is the leaves on an oak tree?

You might say that it's green. It's an established truth.

However that's not the case

The leaves absorbed every color and reflect only green

So in actuality a leaf is every color but green. The green we see is nothing but the refraction of color

Your brain can only see colors that essential to the species

Bee sees in UV. With that they can see pollen better.And other animals see only what's essential for them.

 

I think there's some confusion here, and it has to do with definitions.
Pluto was once considered a planet. And that was 100% true, according to the definition of a planet at the time. But what happened, was we changed the definition of what a planet is. And according to the new definition, pluto is no longer a planet. So it is true that pluto was a planet and it is equally true that pluto is not a planet. Because it depends on what your definition of the term "planet" actually is.

Similarly, when we say leaves are "green" , it all depends on what our definition of "being green" is. According to the scientific definition, something is green when it reflects light that is 495-570nm. Leaves reflect light that is within that range. So according to the scientific definition of green, leaves are certainly green. That is both the truth and a fact (a fact is simply something that is true - they are essentially the same).