What is white privilege?

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  1. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    A JP and a marriage license does not cost much... So now they cant get married due to racism... Come on Shiva.. Step outside of the world of easily debunked "studies" take a deep breath and face the real world.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Always interesting when someone pulls an anecdotal statistic out of their rectal cavity. How many black actors have been nominated for an Acadamy Award over the last two years? What are the racial demographics of Acadamy Award winners since the Acadamy Awards were created?

    I don't consider the entire history of the US Congress or all of the black households v all white households when comparing household net worth as being a small sample size. About the only limited sample was the demographics of the top 100 corporations but that could be expanded because the vast majority of CEO's are white men in America.

    We can also note that a sample size of 5 (i.e. three out of five top paid actors) is an invalid sample size because any sample size of less than 20 is statistically inaccurate while a sample size of 100 is a valid sample size. Of course a person would have to be knowledgeable about statistical analysis to understand that.
     
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    I pulled it out of actuall links with numbers in the Oscar threads perhaps look into them...

    And there you go with small sample sizes again.

    There these things called search engines.... Pick one.. Then put in Highest grossing actors of all time and hit enter... Tada.....
     
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    Let's assess.

    Absolute hogwash. I know sundry families with a shaky economic platform, and not all of them are broken families - many of them are more unified then the economically stable - because they accept the struggle together. It's a nicety to be economically stable, but it's not the most important, not even the top three most important, things to having a successful family.

    Anyone can get married at the justice of the peace for pennies on the dollar, so this is an absolute and blatant falsehood. The reason they can't afford to "get married" is because of the ridiculously commercialized wedding industry pitching nonsense about hugely expensive weddings and tying it to dreams.

    The problem here is absolutely not one of economics, but one of predatory and misleading advertising by megacorporations and the pundits that pitch their line, not one where minorities can't afford to be married. Anyone can afford a JOP marriage. It's simply legal documentation of vows - and in my state costs $20 or so.

    Prove it.

    Discrimination is real, but, but, but - That doesn't prove "white privilege." It's not evidence of "privilege." It is evidence of an unjust system that works against those without and for those with. That includes all of us - and folks need to stop racializing it because the power of the message is absolutely diluted when you use a cop out batch of marginalizing BS like white privilege and discrimination of blacks as if one is the cause of the other and vice versa.

    The wealthy own and run this nation - no matter their nationality.

    Again, you're missing the point, and, nothing you've provided proves that these "problems" would disappear if you "ended prejudice." Sure, there are red lines in certain districts, and businesses are unable to get loans due to owners being blacks - that needs to be addressed. But that is not proof of white privilege insofar as it proves discrimination still exists.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I can afford to buy 5 gallons of gasoline but that doesn't imply I can afford to own a Masserati.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...2/how-financial-problems-stress-cause-divorce

    A person that doesn't even have enough money to support themself is highly unlikely to take on the financial obligation of supporting a wife and, in fact, if they truly love the woman they'd never subject her to a lifetime of poverty. As noted above a lack of money, or money mismanagement if you have money, destroys personal relationships. The black person discriminated against economically because of anti-black racial prejudice is, in many cases, incapable of having a longterm relationship because the lack of financial resources will often destroy even the best of relationships over time.

    The lack of financial resources because of economic discrimination due to anti-black racial prejudice is the problem and until we remedy that the problem (symptom) will continue.
     
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    What the (*)(*)(*)(*) does your analogy have to do with what i said?

    So a guy goes around and knocks up as many women as he can because he truly loves them and doesnt want them in poverty???

    Money breaks up most marriages why do you think its a race issue? ( because everything is right?? )
     
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    Affirmative Action has never been anything more than a front to paint a pretty picture that blacks were included. Once hired, they usually melted back into lower positions or were dismissed. Where I'm from, Nepotism and friendship hiring among White's was rampant. And if there were any Affirmative Action requirements, they always knew how to skirt around that.
     
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    White privilege? Where do I sign up? I am white and could use some privilege.
     
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    How much of Hollywood is owned by Black people?
     
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    Why do you hate Jewish people? They have been exterminated. Had their property stolen. Forced to live in exile. Yet here you are in all your antisemitic glory (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about them having built a successful industry.
     
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    When did I mention anything...at all...about Jewish people?
     
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    You do realize there is an African American in the white house right. If your somebody that works in a retail store, and a man of color comes in with his, pants sagging, his hat backwards and a gold chain on. Honestly what are you going to think? Now the same thing happens only with a white person, honestly what are you going to think? Now the same thing happens again only this time both of the men are very well dressed, honestly what are you going to think? I don't think it's a racial problem, rather what a person represents.

    I live in Colorado in a city of about 250,000 and I have never had a problem with race, nor have I seen a racial problem occur. Maybe it depends on where you live. If you live in a place that has this, and it is something you don't want, try living elsewhere.

    Hillary will say anything for a vote. If you was to actually look at her policies and what she has done as a public servant, I'm sure you would care less about Hillary. I don't want to jump to conclusions but, you are probably just like the rest, and only go off what people say, instead of doing your own research. I would be willing to wager my life savings, that over 50% of votes are uninformed votes. People don't have a clue about the tax policies by the candidates, foreign policy, etc. They only vote for party or popularity. It's a good thing the Kardashians are not running.
     
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    Well you clearly have a problem with Jewish people being the race most prevalent in Hollywood. But they are the ones who built it. So why do you hate Jewish people? You know Germans had a real problem with Jewish people owning much of the banking system in the early 20th century. After all it was disproportionate Jews weren't that large a portion of the German population. Why didn't good Lutheran and Catholic Germans run the banks? Of course the Jews had been the ones who built the industry.

    So you want to kill the Jews for their disproportionate control of Hollywood? Send them off to camps just like the Germans did to those evil Jewish bankers?
     
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    When did I mention anything...at all...about Jewish people?
     
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    It does exist. Read the OP.
    It's presented that the white names having a privilege is a fact, not a correlation of something.
    And white names having a privilege = white privilege.
    I sourced that there is such a thing.
     
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    Come on. Hollywood isn't exactly white anglo saxon protestants. When you start complaining about Hollywood not being black enough we know who you are complaining about. You can not mention them by name but its clear that you hate Jews.
     
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    There is a top 20 white and black boy and girl names. You can google that.
     
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    When black people systematically get longer sentences than white people for the same offense.
    And when black people don't get free on probation as easy as white.

    And you want things to be equal and fair to all. Than it's not a special right for black people to get out just as early as white people, and white people getting the same long sentences as black people.
    Well currently they are getting a lot of favors because they are getting less longer sentences, get out earlier from jail, have better job opportunities because of their name, get more service in hospitals and God who knows what else. And this stuff has probably been going on since the Jim Crow lawns "ended" by law, but certainly not by culture.
     
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    There is absolutely no proof that people of African American descent get longer sentences.
    You can't get any evidence that cases were exactly the same.

    You have failed again, and you will fail forever trying to present correlation as proof of causation.
     
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    This thread proves that America has a significant way to go, in mitigating its ethnic issues. Progress has been made over the years... but there is more to look forward to.

    There is a LOT more to know and digest, than most people are taking in and making use of in positive ways.

    As American culture (as a whole) evolves... the more related aspects of the same will be understood and applied effectively to problems.
     
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    Let the black males marry, AND STAY HOME AND TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS THE WAY MANY WHITE MALES ARE DOING IN THE PRESENT ECONOMY.
     
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    I checked out Richard Lynn and Arthur Jensen.

    And they were 2 paid stooges of the pioneer fund. It paid them two a couple of million each to conduct "research".

    The "pioneer fund" was founded by Wickliffe Draper a supporter of strict racial segregation and made large other contributions to oppose the end of apartheidrule. Harry H. Laughlin also a founder and president, had close ties with the nazi's. He received an award from a german university for his work on “science of racial cleansing.”. The nazi's put his work into law and so 350,000 persons were sterilized by force. Laughlin also helped with writing laws to sterilize people by force if they had an interracial relationship in the US. And so 7000 people got butchered in the US. Frederick Osborn, an other founder, encouraged and endorsed programs in Nazi Germany that sterilized Jews, Poles, and others deemed "unsuitable" to breed.


    In short. You read nazi propaganda and found it credible. lol
     
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    http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324432004578304463789858002

    "In the two years after the Booker ruling, sentences of blacks were on average 15.2% longer than the sentences of similarly situated whites, according to the Sentencing Commission report. Between December 2007 and September 2011, the most recent period covered in the report, sentences of black males were 19.5% longer than those for whites. The analysis also found that black males were 25% less likely than whites in the same period to receive a sentence below the guidelines' range."

    How about you google first and than write something down?
     
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    So just more excuses. Thought so. Maybe they could even start their own businesses? Nah, that would be too hard. Much easier to mooch off Whitey and make even more excuses.

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    That's not an answer, it's a weak attempt at a dodge.
     
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