What is white privilege?

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  1. upside-down cake

    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    :worship: ...........
     
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    White privilege is another comment to keep the racial division alive. It is also one that people are ok with saying. However nothing more than a racial comment itself.
     
  3. thinkitout

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    Generalizations and statistics used to reinforce prejudice only call more attention to it, but you blame this on the "do-gooders". I'm sure that the shortcomings that you have noted in African-Americans are also prevalent in their white counterparts; why did you not mention that?

    Condoning irresponsibility is one thing; arbitrarily assigning blame for it exclusively to one race is quite another.

    . . . . But CERTAIN PEOPLE do not have the right to be so sensitive, do they?
     
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    thinkitout Well-Known Member

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    It makes ME wonder to what extent logic is involved in the political and value choices of Forum members.

    Teaching and motivating are a teacher's responsibilities. What is learned is entirely up to students.
     
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    What "owners" in Hollywood?
     
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    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    The owners, like the owners of Universal Studios, Dream Works, networks, etc.
     
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    I think it's been revoked.




     
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    Universal is owned by Comcast.. Who in Comcast do you speak of?

    Brian L. Roberts perhaps.. Granted he has a net worth around 560 million but so do many actors...
     
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    Accountants.



     
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    It's kind of like how Rupert Murdoch owns 21st century Fox and News Corp, which, together, form a majority ownership of the FoX network.

    Comcast is owned by the Roberts family, yes. Not every owner will eclipse every actor, but many owners generally make more than the actors. Some actors are simply so prolific they make about as much as some network owners. Some, though...

    Another one might be Disney > Dreamworks, and much more.
     
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    Employers usually make more then employees... What is the issue?
     
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    My point, which was addressing someone else, was that the presence of rich Black people in Hollywood did not mean that Hollywood wasn't racist. He said that 3 of the 10 highest paid actors were Black, but I don't think actors have all that much say about what gets put into a movie, though I'm sure they do have their particular ways of pressuring. In the end, though, the decision is up to the owners.

    This isn't to say that Hollywood is, by definition, racist, I'm just saying that racism, as well as a whole other list of things, is not absent from Hollywood.
     
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    How is it present?
     
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    You're clearly ignorant. They use names like Terrell, Darryl and Tyrone.
    I already sourced the top 20 black names. Nothing odd to be found there.
     
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    You sourced this:
    http://www.unz.com/article/the-iq-gap-is-no-longer-a-black-and-white-issue/

    It starts with:
    “If only environmental factors were responsible for the different IQs of different populations, we should expect to find some countries where Africans had higher IQs than Europeans. The failure to find a single country where this is the case points to the presence of a strong genetic factor.” Richard Lynn.

    “Regression would explain why Black children born to high IQ, wealthy Black parents have test scores 2 to 4 points lower than do White children born to low IQ, poor White parents.” Arthur Jensen.



    And them 2 are paid stooges who published "researched" for their clients who paid them millions each. American clients with strong ties to the nazi regime who supported the forced sterilization of people for having an interracial relationship, Jews, Poles and God knows who else.

    You are linking me nazi propaganda about race and think you make a valid argument.
    And you're not even aware of wtf you're linking. Seriously... lol.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Says the poster linking me nazi propaganda.
     
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    The answer to that is quit giving Black babies Black sounding names. You maybe right that White have an advantage there. But Blacks also have an advantage I don't have. The government is obligated to hire a certain percent of minorities and that also goes for the thousands of companies under contract with the government. They also have priorities in schooling. So it's not a one way street, as much as you'd like to make it out to be.
     
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    Listen up, buddy. You ranted that "There is absolutely no proof that people of African American descent get longer sentences." And so I replied with a source and a quote showing I am right and you are wrong. And with that I showed you the raw data of how white privilege has manifested in the US. You lost the debate. So spare me your pathetic excuses while you still obviously cling on with your cultural indoctrinated mantra to the blame of discrimination on the victims no matter how ugly the evidence is piled up against you.
     
  18. Merwen

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    OK that's OT to this particular discussion and you can't cover every facet of every social problem in one post, but I don't attribute it exclusively to blacks; there are many whites out there indulging in similar lifestyles now and always have been, but percentage-wise they are a much smaller portion of the white population. Numbers are rising though, due to the rotten economy. We have a common problem--the people controlling our large corporations just don't get or don't care how they are weakening our country and its economy.

    You can't handle the real problem until you know what the real problem is. It is not the nonadvantaged whites that have so far (but not much longer) been holding on by their fingernails.

    The advantaged class is the ultra wealthy and the upper middle class attorneys, tax lawyers, politicians, and financials that have been enabling them at the expense of the rest of us--like the company that created a special stock option so a wealthy client could essentially rip off many nonwealthy ones.

    Frankly, IMO your post is detrimental and an example of what has been dividing us all.
     
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    Well I see that as a PROBLEM!!!

    If students all want to sign up for BONG 101.....and the University makes BONG 101 as a Mandatory Class but makes COMPUTER SCIENCE 101 an ELECTIVE....then I would say we have a PROBLEM!!!

    AboveAlpha....p.s....I an see the Thesis now for a PhD in THCology......."To use a Water Bong or to use a VAPORIZER? That is the question? To be just HIGH....or to be REALLY Fing HIGH? It is both the question and the answer.

    I plan to prove that the use of Dorito's during the MUNCHIES STAGE of ENLIGHTENMENT IS JUST A PLOY USED AND GIVEN TO YOU BY THE MAN IN HIS NEVER ENDING QUEST TO EXPLOIT THE VERY HIGH!!!

    As Cheese Balls or some Generic Named Chip will work just as well during this stage on one's path to ENLIGHTENMENT.....and when I say ENLIGHTENMENT....I mean being able to sell enough WEED to my dorm buddies to pay for my off campus Apartments Electrical Bill as my parents refuse to send me anymore money as I have been attempting to obtain my PhD in THCology for the past 9 years even though such a Degree does not even exist nor have I as of yet even obtained a Masters Degree or for that matter have I earned even a B.S. or Associates degree from this University as after I got thrown out of the Dorm and moved off campus I have yet to leave this Apartment as the sunlight outside is WAY TOO HARSH!!!

    How many of us know someone like this???

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I didn't realize the background of the two people you quoted, but if you had bothered to read the entire article with an open mind you would have seen that the article refuted what those two said, which was my point.

    It's a valuable article, and I suggest you review it for possible use in further discussions. The study of genetics is not automatically a Nazi activity. I looked up the person that runs that website, and they didn't seem to be a Nazi either.
     
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    You're wrong.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/09/17/more-men-on-the-daddy-track/

    BY RICH MORIN

    "FT_13.09.16_StayAtHomeDad_200px1More dads than ever before—roughly 550,000 in the past decade and counting—are staying home full-time with their children. Compared with stay-at-home moms, these full-time fathers are older, less educated than their spouses and their households have significantly lower incomes, according to a new study of family structure and work trends to be published in an upcoming issue of the Journal of Family Issues.

    About 550,000 men were stay-at-home dads in the past decade. Together they comprised about 3.5% of all married couples with children where at least one spouse had a paid full-time job. That’s about double the number in the 1970s when roughly 280,000 men—about 2% of the total—stayed home with the kids, and the number of full-time caregiving dads is expected to continue to increase, according to an analysis of government data by a research team headed by University of Illinois sociologist Karen Z. Kramer.

    These researchers note that only about 22% of all stay-at-home fathers can be classified primarily as “caregivers”—less than 1% of all two-parent households—while the majority is disabled, ill or unable to find work. In the 1970s, the proportion of fathers who chose to stay home to take care of their families stood at only 1% of all at-home fathers with working wives. In contrast, more than 90% of all moms who did not work outside the home were classified as “caregivers,” a proportion that has remained constant across the decades."....

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/LIVING/wayoflife/06/18/mr.moms/

    http://www.slate.com/articles/doubl...d_i_cook_clean_and_mend_call_me_the_stay.html

    http://bust.com/feminism/9316-the-rise-of-the-male-homemaker.html
     
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    So, you are placing SOME of the blame on the hierarchy of our educational system for not MANDATING courses preparatory to occupational success, while promoting others which are completely unnecessary?
     
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    I did not see a proof, only political opinion.
    Government report did not present any conclusion about unfair treatment of the black.
    Once you find the proof let me know.
    You are the one who have found convenient excuse, not me.
     
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    IMO, generalizations which target minorities divide us all. The perpetrators of acts of prejudice do not perceive them in the same light as those who are victimized.
     
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    I'm not interested at all to read an article that starts with nazi propaganda and states it as if this is some kind of serious research. It's not as if I'm interested in looking at the holocaust at different kind of angles and an open mind to eventually be suckered in thinking that it had some really good points. That you're holding this against me, is just well... how about you shoo and get lost with your nazi literature?
     
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