What is wrong with American traditions

They're idots. Most people are. I have no special regard for people who share SOME of my political beliefs.

And actually you would have to show me evidence that the divorce rate for conservatives is 50%?

You do know that although the "divorce rate" in the U.S. is around 50%, 50% of Americans do not get divorced. The majority of Americans get married once and stay married until their spouse dies. The divorce rate is skewed because the people who get divorced tend to remarry, divorce, remarry, and divorce......

 

High divorce rates are good. Why would you want people who don’t like each other to remain in a toxic relationship?

 

If they don't like each other why did they enter into a relationship in the first place?

 

Maybe they loved each other at the time and things changed. People grow and change over time. They shouldn’t remain in a relationship that has turned toxic just because.

 

The "good old days" were not good for everyone....just because there weren't school shootings doesn't mean nothing bad was happening....

 

Some decisions you don't get to "undo". Relationships do not simply "turn toxic".

 

Who says they had to have been good for everyone?

 

The slow eradication of our traditions is effectively undermining the cohesion of western societies... yet it is difficult to tell, if it is something intentionally orchestrated by the media or just the natural unavoidable cycle which repeats itself in all history, in all contries... everything which is built will eventually collapse.

 

Yeah, they do all the time. People cheat on their spouse, they turn out of be manipulative/abusive, the suffer medical or job setbacks that change their personality.

This happens all the time. People shouldn’t be expected to stay with someone they no longer love or like.

 

I'm still trying to figure out which "traditions" you're talking about

 

Yes, you DO get to undo bad decisions...only a fool would wallow in a bad situation just to prove a meaningless point.

And yes, relationships do change, people change...and staying in a toxic relationship is not noble, it's stupid.

 

The people who call them the "good old days"....or think that just because we didn't have school shootings things were fine...

 

I can tell you from personal experience that things were better. No times were ever perfect.

 

Agree to disagree then.

 

Why do you think staying in a relationship that one party or the other doesn’t want to keep is a good thing?

 

Mainly it is the christian cultural basis which served as the very basis for western civilization. We are still very attached to these traditions, in case you didn't notice... we can criticize them as much as we want but they served their purpose. For example we generally see things like poligamy, homosexuality, nihilism, hedonism, narcissism, as inherently bad. I say generally because things are changing a lot these days... you see, there is a reason why christianism rose from the deep moral corruption of the roman empire. It helped forming a cultural union between people, and straightened up the society to an extent by combating the moral corruption.

It is ironical, that after so much time, after the " the victory of jesus christ " over the evil and corruption, we are gradually going back into those times of moral relativism and decadence. You can see by yourself what is happening... hedonism is gradually becoming the new religion.

 

Yes, from someone's personal view and personal experience they were better...that did NOT make it better for everyone.

I agree, NO times were ever perfect.

 

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Yes, you DO get to undo bad decisions...only a fool would wallow in a bad situation just to prove a meaningless point.

And yes, relationships do change, people change...and staying in a toxic relationship is not noble, it's stupid.

Why? What did you find wrong about my post?


You think people shouldn't be allowed to alleviate or rectify bad situations?

You think staying in a toxic relationship IS noble? Smart?

 

You still didn't say what "traditions' are being lost...


There has never been a victory over evil and corruption, they were present since humans were present.....There has always been moral relativism and decadence...

 

You need to preach this to Trump. It's funny RWers on here is preaching about "traditions", and "family values" yet they turned a blind eye to his multiple marriages. You don't get to preach such when you vote a man of low moral value to the presidency.

 

How has that made a difference? The totalitarian countries all do that
The anthem is a song...and pledging allegiance ...just words.

 

Yea but it was at the peak of moral decadence and the oppression of the powerful, that a religion like christianism rose. It served a purpose, a hope for the people and a spiritual teaching.

The traditions are present in the very way you think and behave, and also the way you are, because it wasn't for them, you would be a different person.

Anyway i agree to an extent that when a culture becomes stagnant, there needs to be a change.

But attacking it as a whole, for the only sake of it, like some people do, is quite stupid in my opinion

 

Sure like oaths of office recited by the unscrupulous ... just words. The words that millions have rallied behind, and gave their lives for. You can't be compelled in this freedom loving nation to embrace our nations symbols and the ideals they represent. You can at least have the courtesy not to criticize the observances or dimiss their significance. DC just erected a statue of Marion Barry. He's apparently a suitable representation of American traditions in the eyes of progressives. Now should I bemoan, and vandalize, or silently object to the monument. Not a difficult choice for traditional freedom loving Americans.

 

And that is one of the reasons I've never liked Donald Trump.

 

The people I know didn’t give their lives for the pledge of allegiance..they gave it for democracy where all people are created equal. The people who fought in the world wars and came home maimed and saw their friends killed had to sit in the back of the bus! The kneeling is symbolic....