What Should be Verdict in Jody Arias case ?

So what ? That doesn't prove he was still living when she cut him.

How do you know that ? You got a video ? Does anybody ?

I don't see what that has to do with her shooting him. [/QUOTE]

 

Proof of what? That Jodi wants the death penalty? Lessee she said so in a number of interviews.

 

I never said I was pro-death penalty did I? She does deserve death, the crime was heinous and proving cruelty in the next phase will be easier than it was to get the first degree murder conviction.

 

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Did you LISTEN to her testimony? She began stabbing him while he was in the shower..and then claims she ran to get the gun.

 

SAy does not want the death penalty. If she did not want to live after she killed Travis...then whey didn't she just admit from the start she did it and wants to die?
She went to extremes to cover this up...her fake journal entries...setting Travis up by recording him, the text messages...etc. No she wants to be in the limelight...this is what she thrives on. She knew that if she threatened suicide she would be put into a better place...even temporarily. She knows that her best shot is to keep bashing Travis...and to say she wants death...She thinks the jury with do the opposite and give her life without parol.

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Did you LISTEN to her testimony? She began stabbing him while he was in the shower..and then claims she ran to get the gun.[/QUOTE]

AND....she stabbed him in the back..while he was throwing up blood at the sink....watching himself die.

 

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She killed him THREE TIMES.....And obviously you did not watch any of the trial...to listen to the medical examiners account. I would suggest watching the next phase....then maybe these support for Jodi questions will be put to rest.

 

Why do you always side with evil?

Casey Anthony should have gotten something...even if it was child negligence.

Tell me who....would not report their child missing for a month? Who would go out dancing and partying and whoring around...while you were worried that your flesh and blood was missing?

Oh I can't wait to hear this. If this is not a red flag...then a dead body would not convince you either.

Now I don't know if it was an accident...but Casey knew...and she tried to cover something up. She was also caught in lies. Her account did not add up.

What would you think of someone whose child came up missing...and they had "how to break someones neck..." on their computer?
And what grandmother would call actually reporting her daughter....and the dead body smell in her car?

So many questions....that will never be answered. If she was innocent she would have reported her child missing when she showed up at the babysitters and she wasn't there.

But she did not....it obviously did not upset her. I think her father knew something...the grandmother did not...that was obvious if you listen to her 9-11 call. She places blame squarely on CASEY. She knew she had something to do with it. And I think everyone else does too...well except you.

You must like pretty women who like to murder...LOL

 

It goes both ways...... you're being very casual about a man who once had a life, but was shot in the head while he was taking a shower, which meant he was NOT a threat to her at that time (IF he had been abusive to her). She then proceeded to stab him 27 times and slash his throat......

If you want to think she was not angry and raging, then why did she have a gun and knife on her? But that anger and rage would have been on the inside of her, him totally unaware of what the psychotic was thinking and PLANNING.... and that's why he let himself be defenseless.

Why else did she steal her grandparents gun? Why did she keep lying to the cops if she was so 'innocent'? It was premeditated murder and that's why she traveled to AZ - to kill him and he, unfortunately, gave her the opportunity to do it b/c he got in the shower, thinking everything was ok w/them.........

You think some women aren't capable of plotting and scheming to murder some guy, then crying "rape!" or he threatened her life? There's just as many evil women out there as there are men and Arias is one of them....

To bad you, another guy (I'm assuming) can't see it.

 

1. Just because he was taking a shower doesn't mean he wasn't a threat to her. He could have been anywhere and been a threat, and stated attacking her, only to be stopped by a bullet.

2. Maybe she stole the gun for the same reason I bought my gun - for self-defense.

3. Maybe the reason she lied to the cops is because she's just scatterbrained, and didn't know what to do or say. It is a pretty stressful situation, after you just killed somebody.

4. Sure, some women are capable of "plotting and scheming to murder some guy, then crying "rape!" " But the crux of the matter isn't that. It is where is there EVIDENCE to PROVE that Jody did not act in self-defense ?

 

All right ... now you've done it. Anyone who thinks CA may be innocent has a serious problem......

NO normal, loving mother will go DANCING AFTER her 2 yr old TODDLER disappears! Not knowing whether her child is dead or alive!

But an evil sociopathic (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) who knows where her child is - DEAD and thrown in the woods for the animals to eat, will feel 'free' and go dancing!

 

Did you LISTEN to her testimony? She began stabbing him while he was in the shower..and then claims she ran to get the gun.[/QUOTE]

So that's what she said.... I didn't listen to a lot of the trial and assumed she shot him in the head first, then got the knife......

Wow... for someone who felt so 'threatened' by this guy, whom she would travel down the freeway to sleep with, she did make sure she had her weapons for the overkill she was obviously planning........

 

The thing w/Cindy, the grandmother was she did make that frantic 9/11 call, terrified for her granddaughter's safety and was truthful about the smell in Casey's car trunk..... but it didn't take her long to put 2 & 2 together and quickly changed her tune when she defended the smell by saying a rotting pizza was left in the trunk... she knew better, but by then was suspicious of her daughter and tried to protect her.......

The prosecution really screwed up on that case b/c they over-reached and had just the DP on the table w/o enuf evidence to back it up....so the dancing psychotic slut walked...........

 

I didn't follow the CA case at all.. but toddlers drown in Florida pools all the time. Its a huge problem.. and some families take extraordinary measures to prevent such horrid accidents... with all sorts of pool alarms and teaching drownproofing before age one.

If the baby drowned.. why didn't CA call 911?

 

1. If a man is naked and taking a shower, then he's naked and taking a shower! WHERE'S THE THREAT??! THAT'S the time a woman would run like hell if she felt her life was in danger! But this female armed herself w/a stolen gun and knife, so after she had sex w/him and he's showering, she could and would kill him!

This poor schmuck is DEAD and can't defend himself from her claims of his 'abuse', him being a 'pedophile' and all the other (*)(*)(*)(*) she said about him - the guy she kept clinging to and wanted to HAVE SEX WITH!

2. The FACT that she STOLE her grandparents handgun, not caring that she had stolen their self defense away from them, doesn't tell you something about her lack of a conscience?

3. She is NOT scatterbrained. She's manipulative, cunning and very diabolical. She planned this out and scatterbrained, dense people don't have the IQ to methodically plan out a murder like this w/the confidence that if she's caught, she can sway a jury into believing her 'innocence' and killed him in 'self-defense'...... she had said 'no jury would ever convict me'... those people are narcissistic sociopaths... and I don't believe people like her would feel 'stress' after killing someone, whom they planned to kill anyway, like someone who did kill in self-defense. It came up that about 12 hrs later after she killed TA, she had sex w/another guy.......NO, a normal woman who had to kill someone to save her life wouldn't be in a very 'loving' mood afterwards.......

4. Considering the circumstances and that she willingly drove to AZ to have sex w/him again, a guy who supposedly terrified her w/his 'abuse' that she had to have a gun and knife on her, then waited for him to get in the shower where there was no threat to her life, where she was FREE to run out the door where she had her own car to escape......?

Now these are the facts, but if you want to believe her poor little Jodie's version of being abused where she had no choice but to kill Travis after he got in the shower....... have at it.

 

Eh! Why didn't CA do a lot of things that a normal, loving parent scared spitless for her child's life would have done?

When the story first broke, I couldn't make any sense out of it - a 2 yr old child in the care of her mother disappeared and a month later, the grandmother reported the child gone b/c the mother didn't? Or wouldn't?

When I saw the pix of "momma" Casey out dancing and enjoying herself in a niteclub only 3-4 nights after Caylee 'disappeared' - then I knew she had done something to make her child disappear........

No one on this planet could convince me that a mother who loved her child, wanted her child, would go out dancing right after she disappeared, not knowing if her child was dead or alive.... that would not ever happen w/normal, loving, caring parents....

CA's story was her dad found Caylee's drowned body, woke CA up and told her he'd 'dispose' of the body...... so he tossed his beloved granddaughter's remains in the woods to be devoured by animals....

I don't believe that lying crap anymore than I believe Arias was being threatened by TA......

No one knows how Caylee died.... one way was Casey could have locked her in the car under the hot Florida sun so the party pig could go off partying again and when she returned, the child was dead from suffocation..... it's happened many times w/babies, children & animals. And she put the body in the trunk where it decomposed b/c the grandmother said the trunk 'smelled like a dead body'........

But only Casey knows and she's not talking........

 

I love your signature....

"Obama wants every U.S. citizen to prove they are insured, but also according to him, people don't have to prove they are U.S. citizens...."

So illogical......love it.

 

She and Jodi are a lot a like...narcissists...only out for themselves...inability to feel, no remorse.

I will never forget the terror from her mothers voice when she made that 911 call. It was agony...and I can just imagine how she felt...as I have two granddaughters.

Casey is every bit of a monster IMO as Jodi Arias. It is inconceivable to imagine someone doing what they did.

 

Oh yeah... both of those women are definitely narcissistic sociopaths - Arias was diagnosed as borderline personality, which is dangerous.....stone cold killers. Even if CA didn't deliberately kill her toddler, the child died, in her care, and she shoved her little body in a bag and tossed her in the woods. Then went out dancing.......

The Anthonys had to have known pretty much from the start that their daughter did something to Caylee. He had been a cop, she was a nurse, not stupid people..... well, when they were raising her, they created a monster..... but Cindy immediately tried to convince others the smell in the trunk had been from a rotting pizza. Despite her living in denial, I couldn't help but feel so sorry for her and George.

Can you imagine living w/the media circus in your face, day after day, week after week, month after month? Your beloved granddaughter had vanished and everytime your daughter opened her mouth, she was lying.... that unmistakable stink in Casey's car trunk always haunting them....

Hopefully, they're finding some peace in their lives now.

 

All right ... now you've done it. You've accused me of saying that Casey Anthony was innocent. I didn't say that. YOU said that. I said she may be innocent, as defined by the prosecution's inability to PROVE her guilty. Actually, she is supposed to be presumed "innocent until proven guilty", and she was not proven guilty, with the prosecution given every chance to do so.

Your post also shows emotions are clouding your capability to objectively assess this situation. I'm seeing much of that in the Jody Arias case too.

 

I agree with you on this.

 

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He was living.. She had stabbbed him repeatedly in the back... cut his arms, legs hands.. shot him a glancing blow to his head and finished him by cutting his throat four inches deep..

Why don't you look at the crime scene photos and actually follow her testimony.

 

1. FALSE! Just because a guy is in the shower, doesn't mean he can't attack someone.

2. Jody's lack of conscience is one thing. Commiting a first degree murder is another. I know plenty of people who have a worse lack of conscience than stealing someone's gun. They're still not murderers.

3. Yes she is scatterbrained. And yes she is intelligent. Those two are not mutually exclusive of one another. It is quite easy to be both.

4. Bunch of circumstances, OK. But none that PROVE she didn't act in self-defense.

Hopefully, if you are ever accused of murder, your townspeople won't be so apt to send you to prison or the death penalty, without a positive PROOF of guilt, as I haven't seen shown here after 165 posts.

 

Why didn't you listen to her testimony before spouting off?

 

Of course, there's going to be emotion from people who have a pulse when it comes to a 2 yr old disappearing and mama goes out dancing, instead of calling the cops........

Never said you tho't CA was innocent, but you think there's the possibility she is. An innocent person calls the cops when her child disappears, doesn't make up a 'Zanny, the nanny' story, lies about where she's working and continues to lie, lie, lie to the cops for the next 2 yrs like she did........the child was in her care and the child died and her body was thrown in the woods and mama went dancing.....

Then her own mother said it smelled like a dead body in mama's car trunk.....

Now a person can have emotions about a case, but still have common sense.....

 

FALSE! Innocent people DO lie if they think the truth looks worse than the lie they can tell. Happens all the time. especially with scatterbrained people like Jody Arias and Casey Anthony kind of appear to be. Never can tell what people might do under weird circumstances. And yes, it is possible that CA was innocent. Entirely possible. Same with Jody Arias. And they are all to be presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. I see no proof in either one of these cases.