What Should be Verdict in Jody Arias case ?

Because I'm NOT spouting off. "Spouting off" is declaring something. I'm not doing that. I'm neither saying she's guilty or innocent. I'm simply saying she's to be presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty, and asking where/how that's been done.

 

WRONG! A mother innocent of her child's disappearance will do everything in her power to help the police find her child, regardless of what the truth is! She will tell them what happened, what her mistakes were in order to get her child back alive and unharmed! That's the ONLY thing that would matter to her - getting her child back.....

She even lied to the cops about working at Universal Studios!

And, like I had said, no normal, loving mother or dad could go dancing after their child disappears and he/she doesn't know whether the child is dead or alive........ that fact alone about the case screams volumes about her guilt.....

Are you a parent? Do you love your kid(s)?

 

If people are really presumed innocent...they would not have to serve time behind bars before even going to trial. There is always human error involved with decisions. And every jury listens to the evidence...but even they can get it wrong. That is why I am not sure I want the death penalty.

Everyone has emotions...even you do don't you? In any decision there is some bias and some emotion.

 

protectionist said,

Yes he can....even while completely naked, floor slippery....and against someone with a gun and a knife. LMAO What big guy like Travis was....could possibly end up SLAUGHTERED....BY SOMEONE WHO ADMITS THEY DID IT. JODI ADMITS DOING THIS. Why did he not stand a chance? Possibly because she has the gun and the knife...possibly because she got a few blows in first. He did not attack for a reason...what was it? Why wasn't she hurt? She managed to have no injuries....not a one. She admitted that. She was well enough that she killed him in a matter of a few minutes...then cleaned him up...dragged him back into the shower....collected her purse...and belongings...erased some pics on the camera and dropped it in the washing machine. Oh she even started up a load. LOL She was ok driving....well enough to toss the gun,...drive to Vegas and HOP IN BED WITH SOMEONE ELSE.
SURE HE COULD HAVE ATTACKED IF HE HAD ...HAD A WEAPON.


"2. Jody's lack of conscience is one thing. Commiting a first degree murder is another. I know plenty of people who have a worse lack of conscience than stealing someone's gun. They're still not murderers."

She was in a FOG....she remembered tiny little details (365 daysX 5 years......) and could not remember killing him. Wonder why she admitted she did it...if she did not remember? LOL
You don't know enough about this case to be commenting on it, seriously. The three gas cans....dying of her hair along the way....upside down license plate. There was a mountain of evidence. But Martinez caught her lying on the stand.....ouch...that hurt her.

I would not say she is smart...she can manipulate people into believer her...much like yourself. Her sweet little voice...the whisps of hair on her forehead....her crocodile tears.....sigh. She had four years to think up a story....to plot every scenario that would be played out. She was dumb to even take the stand....to take her grandfathers gun...to think anyone would believe that skateboarders would turn her plate upside down while she was in the convenience store...to throw the camera in the washer....to not at least make the closet look like she attempted to get on the top shelf.....to be arrogant on the stand no matter who was questioning her...and the thing that bit her the hardest....HER OWN WORDS. NO JURY WILL CONVICT ME. They did...she is guilty of plotting the slaughter.

Never once in their entire relationship did he hit her or abuse her....she did not put it down in a journal...did not tell a friend....even told the police at her arrest that Travis did nothing to hurt her. Her story about the NINJAs didn't work so she had to change her tune....to say Travis battered her. She found him so attractive that she still came states away to see him....as they never lived together. NO woman if the abuse was bad would do this. They were not engaged , married....no ties....why would she sleep with someone who she said was a pedophile..who masterbated to pictures of little boys?
She was the pervert the sex addict..the stalker. She slashed tires...she watched him from afar...even peeking in the windows of his home. She was consumed with him...he was her obsession. I am sure he led her on at one point...used her for sex, that much is obvious...but how many guys do this today? Do guys who use women for sex deserve death?

What don't you get? Your so ignorant of the facts and what was presented in court that talking to you is a joke.

They interviewed a few of the people who defended OJ...along with Johnny Cochran. They said this case was a slam dunk...no brainer. The evidence of premeditation was overwhelming.

 

Earth to you...earth to you....

Jodi admitted she killed him...she is guilty. The whole trial was over sentencing really. Did she plan it.
There is no doubt....she cut him from ear to ear....slashing his throat, stabbed him 29 times...half of them in the BACK....and if that was not enough...shot him in the FACE.

And you say...she is innocent....

Talking to you is a waste of time.

 

Very good post..... after reading here about the trial, wish I had watched a lot more than the little bit I did.

I really believe the only way she could slaughter him like she did was b/c she took him by surprise when he was in the shower and there was no threat to her. He was relaxed and unaware..... if she had attacked him on the bed or anywhere else, he would have had a chance.

You mentioning her peeking in his window reminded me of someone saying she had said she snuck over to his house one night, peeked in his window and saw him laying on the couch w/another woman... she told someone she planned on marrying him.... yeah, you can imagine the twisted rage boiling over in her when she saw the other woman. Women have committed premeditated murder b/c of their obsession over a guy.

 

OFF TOPIC. You haven't even PROVED guilt for Jody Arias yet. Let's stick to the topic. Or better yet >> http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-expands-sunday-morning-talk-show-nausea.html

and: http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...immigration-bill-1945-us-surrender-japan.html

 

They DON'T have to serve time before trial. Ever hear of BAIL ?

There's always emotion, but one needs to be as unemotional as possible in a trial (especially when the accused's life is at stake), and just deal with the FACTS.

 

1. You sound like you saw a VIDEO of the events. Want to post it ?

2. I'm NOT commenting on the case. I'm asking a question. Where's the PROOF ?

3. She smart, but also scatterbrained.

4. How do you know if he ever hit her ?

5. I AM ignorant of the facts. Yes. That's why I'm asking all of you to present them here >> just those that PROVE Jody did not act in self-defense.

 

EARTH TO CHURCHMOUSE: She is not charged with killing him. She is charged with MURDERING him. Do you know the difference ? If she killed him in self-defense, that's NOT murder. None of what you say here in post # 180 PROVES a killing that did not occur in self-defense. You keep talking around the self-defense part. That's the only part that matters.

Yeah this is looking like a waste of time. All of our time would be better spent right now in THESE 2 threads >>

1. http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...immigration-bill-1945-us-surrender-japan.html

2. http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-expands-sunday-morning-talk-show-nausea.html

 

He was living.. She had stabbbed him repeatedly in the back... cut his arms, legs hands.. shot him a glancing blow to his head and finished him by cutting his throat four inches deep..

Why don't you look at the crime scene photos and actually follow her testimony.[/QUOTE]

You said he was living. And I asked you HOW YOU KNOW that. And you now answer "He was living.." Pheeeeeww! This is why I say we're at the point where all our time would be better spent here >> http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-expands-sunday-morning-talk-show-nausea.html

and here >> http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...immigration-bill-1945-us-surrender-japan.html

 

Well, I'll be danged! I'm only replying to your post - this one, below, where you were also talking about Casey Anthony.......

"FALSE! Innocent people DO lie if they think the truth looks worse than the lie they can tell. Happens all the time. especially with scatterbrained people like Jody Arias and Casey Anthony kind of appear to be. Never can tell what people might do under weird circumstances. And yes, it is possible that CA was innocent. Entirely possible. Same with Jody Arias. And they are all to be presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty. I see no proof in either one of these cases."

What's wrong? Did I hit a nerve where I stated that an INNOCENT mother who loves her child will do everything in her power to help the cops find her child, even if she had lied about something?

Suddenly, to you - I'm 'off topic'.........

And now you're saying it's 'entirely possible for Casey Anthony to be innocent.'.....

Innocent people DO-NOT-LIE! Mothers who's child disappears and she's INNOCENT of the disappearance CALLS THE COPS IMMEDIATELY! A MONTH after the 2 yr old TODDLER'S disappearance, the GRANDMOTHER called 9/11 when she found out Caylee had been gone for a month, no one knowing where she was!

Meanwhile, w/her 2 yr old gone, "Mama" Casey was out DANCING in the bars!

My gawd...... how gullible and brain-washed can you get?

Do you have kids?

 

In case you haven't noticed, this thread is over with. You had ample time to PROVE guilt of Jody Arias, and you didn't. I wonder if the jury ever got any PROOF. In any case, the thread is finished. Spend your time usefully. These threads don't have any posts yet. You can be the first one.

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-expands-sunday-morning-talk-show-nausea.html

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...immigration-bill-1945-us-surrender-japan.html

 

This thread is over with? Oh. Didn't notice since a mod didn't say anything......

Look, if you can't accept the fact that in some cases, the only evidence the investigators have is circumstantial and they and the jury can connect the dots and nail the defendant - well, what can I say? Except it does happen....... how to you think they nailed Scott Peterson?.

Arias admitted she murdered TA and you prefer to think she just had to kill him instead of running out the door when he was showering......

As far as Anthony goes, won't even go there anymore.... but if you think a mother who doesn't report her toddler missing and goes dancing after she's gone might be innocent......... wow.

And I noticed you won't answer if you have kids or not...

Why do you keep pushing these other threads? I'll post where I want to......