What specific policies of Adolf Hitler are "Right Wing" ?

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    There are many examples of leftist governments restricting speech. However, most of the complaints about "Cancel Culture" violating anyone's individual rights are complete bull ****, and are often, instead, the EXERCISE of individual rights. If a school decides to cancel your speech invitation, or if a publisher decides to drop your book, etc., your rights have not been violated. And, once again, you are projecting the faults in your arguments onto others.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    How does that change the fact that it is socially conservative?

    None of this changes the fact that it is a social conservative position.

    Speaking into the mirror again, I see. Take your own advice.
     
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    lol, Trump is the Right wing now... like it or not - he is the Right's candidate in 2024

    Trump has the most Hitler like cult following I have seen in my lifetime
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not only that, there was no "close cooperation with capitalist industries". The Nazi party controlled every industry. There was no capitalism. Hitler socialized all the industries in Germany.
     
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    By that definition JFK and Reagan were literally Hitler.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Hitler privatized industry. Socialists left the party when he proposed this. He did more privatization than most western capitalist countries did. Later in the war, he rolled that back . . . so did every capitalist country. There was more capitalism under Hitler in Germany than there was before he took power. There was nothing "socialist" about the Nazi party after Hitler took over.
     
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    They had a labor union.

    A labor union socialized, and centralized by the state.

    That's what socialism looks like.

    Hitler's government wasn't Marxism, but it was socialism.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Labor unions were outlawed. The socialist party was outlawed. The Marxist party was outlawed. Hitler took the country toward more privatization. It wasn't socialism. Even Hitler flubbed when asked how the party was still socialist . . . which was after the socialists had left the party and he had one of the socialist leaders killed and another exiled. If you think "that's what socialism looks like," then you, like Hitler, don't understand what socialism is.
     
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    No there wasn't. Private ownership of property itself was banned and conditional on meeting the goals of the Nazi party.

    Every business had a board of Nazi officials.

    That's not a privatized market.
     
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    Baloney.

    The ADF was the official, centralized, labor union of Nazi Germany.

    That is a centrally controlled, socialized, labor union.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    This is probably the most historically inaccurate statement I've seen on the forums . . . and I've debated Holocaust deniers and Confederacy defenders. I'm sorry the facts are inconvenient for your agenda.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Are you talking about the AFD . . . which is a political party founded in 2013? Links, please.
     
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    https://mises.org/wire/yes-they-were-socialists-how-nazis-waged-war-private-property

    How did the National Socialists combat private property in Germany? The first step came shortly after the Nazis took control, when they abolished private property. Article 153 of the Weimar constitution guaranteed private property, with expropriation only to occur within the due process of the law, but this article was nullified by a decree on February 28, 1933.


    With this, the new National Socialist government had complete control of private property in Germany. While they did not take complete control of the lands like the Bolsheviks did in Russia in 1917, the Nazis issued quotas for industries and farms, and later they reorganized all industry into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party.


    Reimann quotes a letter from a German businessman to an American businessman:


    The difference between this and the Russian system is much less than you think, despite the fact that officially we are still independent businessmen.


    The letter continues:


    Some businessmen have even started studying Marxist theories, so that they will have a better understanding of the present economic system.
     
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    Wow. Lacking in basic info.

    https://ghdi.ghi-dc.org/sub_image.cfm?image_id=2030

    German Labor Front [Deutsche Arbeitsfront or DAF

    According to Nazi propaganda, the new system would put an end to class differences and conflict and build the foundation for a national community marked by harmony and solidarity
     
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    Ah, I see, you are admitting you cat the acronym wrong. I'll look into it.
     
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    What we don't see is you trying to answer his question.
     
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    So you consider Christianity to be right wing?

    You left wingers tell me that plenty of Christians are Democrats
     
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    He already tried that but mushroom thoroughly destroyed every effort
     
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    Oh I'm so sorry, I transposed two letters.
     
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    Show me how that is "Right Wing", especially at the time.

    Hell, you do not even realize how badly you are failing by attempting to redefine things of 70 years ago under a modern definition.
     
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    This discussion is about NSDAP Germany, not the past president.

    Holy hell, you must absolutely love the guy, because you seem to be completely unable to make a post without bringing him up.

    Can we stick to the topic itself? I have no interest in reading about your love fest with the past President over and over again.
     
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    Imagine their shock when they discover Hitler's Germany controlled the means of production with centralized state planning.
     
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    I'm sorry that you don't see the fact that social conservatism is a right wing policy thing.
     
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    And once again, how is that different from any other nation at the time?

    One of the first things that Communists did wherever they rose to power was outlaw Unions also. So does that make them Right Wing?

    They also outlaw any other parties other than themselves. Does that make them "Right Wing"?

    And no, they did not outlaw "Socialist Parties", but they did outlaw Communism. As a great many other nations did at the time. Once again, that is typical of many nations at the time, not just Germany.

    You keep failing, as nothing you point out is actually consistent with either "Right Wing" or "Left Wing", but simply the actions of a Totalitarian State coming into power.
     
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    Only when they oppose things, like Abortion or Gay Rights.

    But when they support taking care of homeless, oppose capital punishment, and support illegal immigration they suddenly become "Fellow Travelers". Until they start to fight them again over those earlier things I mentioned.
     
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