What specific policies of Adolf Hitler are "Right Wing" ?

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  1. Mushroom

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    But did any of those have the number one selling album in the nation?

    Hell, you can tell those that remember that era because many of us can quote from the album to this day. It was funny, and a loving parody of the President.

    Just a few moments ago I said to my Aunt "The rubber schwan is mine", and she started laughing.



    But the thing is, it seems all they can do is make bad comparisons to things every other nation at the time did. But somehow, it was different when Germany did it.

    I honestly do not care, but I find how some are discussing this to be fascinating. They can not actually name anything, and I find that the most fascinating part of all.
     
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    fake news.... that was a gun smuggling operation sting gone bad... but nice spin
     
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    That was your very first post here. In fact, if I was to vomit up every post you have made in here, probably 80% or more are about him.

    And yet, you claim *I* took us there. No, you did from your very first post. Just like almost any post you seem to make anywhere I see you post in here.
     
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    yes, that is something Hitler had in common with the right wing.... Trump was the right wing too... so the example was on topic
     
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    LoL. Case in point.
     
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    yeah, sure was.... not in the way you wanted people to think though, lol

    what's next, talk about Hillary and Pizzagate, some will believe anything the right tells them to beleive
     
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    You don't have a message. At the very least the misinformation you're attempting to pervey here is being torn to shreds.
     
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    Those children are literally singing praises to Obama as though he was Jesus and you stick your head right in the sand and pretend you can't see it.
     
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    And that's not the only video out there either.
     
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    You would find a way to somehow twist it and say that Trump was relevant to the topic in a thread about cake recipes.
     
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    Did you cat into it yet.
     
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    I don't know what "cat into it" means, but yes, I'm looking into it if that's what you are asking.
     
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    I wasn't sure what you meant either when you said "cat".
     
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    if one thinks that justifies Trump or Hitlers bad acts... it doesn't

    huge difference between celebrating the first black President and being a cult member of Hitlers
     
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    Take it up with whoever wrote post #86, which I quoted.
     
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    No, you did, actually.

     
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    sure, lol

    "Donald Trump forgot which country he attacked but he remembered the chocolate cake he ate while doing it"

    https://twitter.com/i/status/852317921921585152
     
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    No. Most people don't see it. Only ones consumed with irrational hatred.
     
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    actually it's the ones consumed with irrational hatred that do not see it
     
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    Are you expecting an answer like they advocated fiscal responsibility or strong immigration laws? I really do not know what types of policies Hitler himself championed beyond the actions of the Germans we see in the history books. I never heard a campaign speech or saw his promises.

    You could always ask ChatGPT: For example - Why is Hitler's Nazi party considered right wing?

    ChatGPT:

    Hitler's Nazi party is generally considered a right-wing movement due to its emphasis on nationalist and conservative values, its rejection of communism and socialism, and its advocacy for traditional societal structures. Some of the key features that place the Nazi party on the right side of the political spectrum include:

    1. Nationalism: The Nazis were staunch nationalists who placed the interests of the German nation above all else. They emphasized the importance of racial purity and the superiority of the Aryan race, and sought to expand German territory to create a greater homeland for the German people.
    2. Conservatism: The Nazi party was rooted in conservative values, emphasizing traditional gender roles, family values, and the importance of the church in German society. They rejected modernist and liberal ideas, and sought to preserve traditional German culture.
    3. Anti-communism: The Nazi party was strongly opposed to communism, which they viewed as a threat to the stability and security of the German nation. They believed in a capitalist economic system and rejected socialist and communist ideas.
    4. Authoritarianism: The Nazi regime was highly authoritarian, with Hitler at its head. The government had complete control over all aspects of society and suppressed dissent through censorship, propaganda, and violence.
    5. Anti-Semitic: The Nazis were infamous for their persecution of Jews, which they believed were responsible for many of Germany's problems. They also persecuted other minority groups, including Romani people, homosexuals, and disabled individuals.
    Overall, these features place the Nazi party on the right side of the political spectrum, as they prioritize nationalism, conservatism, and authoritarianism over individual rights, freedoms, and equality. However, it is important to note that not all right-wing movements or governments are associated with extremism or authoritarianism, and that the political spectrum is not always a clear-cut divide between left and right.

    If you disagree with ChatGPT you are free to challenge it. For example I said: Why is authoritarianism consider a right wing policy?

    ChatGPT answered:

    Authoritarianism is not necessarily considered a policy of the political right or left, as it can be practiced by regimes on both sides of the political spectrum. However, historically, many right-wing movements and governments have tended towards authoritarianism, particularly those that emphasize nationalism, traditionalism, and social conservatism.

    One reason for this is that the political right often places a greater emphasis on order and stability, which can lead to the use of authoritarian measures to suppress dissent and maintain social control. In addition, right-wing movements may view individual freedoms and civil liberties as less important than the collective good of the nation, which can justify the use of authoritarian tactics.

    However, it is important to note that not all right-wing movements or governments are authoritarian, and that authoritarianism can also be found in left-wing movements and governments that prioritize the collective good over individual rights and freedoms. Ultimately, whether a political movement or government is authoritarian or not depends on its specific policies and practices, rather than its position on the political spectrum.
     
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    Hitler didn't reject socialism.

    His entire economy was centrally planned.
     
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    I plugged you comments into ChatGPT. Here is its response:

    While the Nazi party did espouse some elements of socialist rhetoric, particularly early in its history, Hitler and the party ultimately rejected socialism and adopted a fascist economic model that combined elements of capitalism and state control.

    The Nazis did not believe in traditional socialism, which is based on the idea of workers owning the means of production and the distribution of wealth being based on need. Instead, they believed in the idea of "national socialism," which saw the German nation as a collective entity with the state as its highest expression. In practice, this meant that the Nazi regime pursued a mixed economy that combined capitalist structures with state control.

    Under Hitler's leadership, the German economy was centrally planned, with the state directing investment, production, and resource allocation. The state also heavily regulated the private sector, with the government controlling prices, wages, and production quotas. However, private ownership of property was not abolished, and businesses were allowed to operate as long as they aligned with the goals and interests of the state.

    Overall, while the Nazi regime did employ some socialist rhetoric and practices, particularly in its early years, its economic model ultimately rejected traditional socialism and embraced a fascist system that combined elements of capitalism and state control.
     
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    That doesn't make sense.
     
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    Private ownership of property was abolished under Hitler.

    Hitler abolished Article 153 of the Weimar constitution on Feb 28, 1933.

    The Nazi party could confiscate any property they wished, at any time.
     
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    I am impressed with your knowledge of German history. I did not know any of this but I plugged your comments into ChatGPT once again and here is its response:

    You are correct that Hitler and the Nazi regime did confiscate property from individuals and groups deemed undesirable or a threat to the regime, and that private property rights were severely curtailed. While private ownership of property was not abolished outright, the government exerted extensive control over property and economic activity through a variety of means, including expropriation, regulation, and control of prices and wages.

    After the Nazi seizure of power in 1933, the government passed laws that allowed for the confiscation of property from individuals and groups deemed enemies of the state, including Jews, communists, and other political dissidents. In addition, the government exercised control over the economy through the Four Year Plan, which directed investment and resource allocation in accordance with the goals of the Nazi regime.

    Overall, while private property rights were not abolished outright, the Nazi regime exerted extensive control over property and economic activity, and the government was able to confiscate property at will. This approach was consistent with the regime's overall philosophy of national socialism, which emphasized the collective interests of the German people over individual rights and freedoms.
     
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