What The Liberal-Left Does Not Understand About Trump

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  1. impermanence

    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Do you have anything else besides this?
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    If you make baseless claims, make baseless claims.
    At least by not knowing any names, shows the claims made were baseless.
     
  3. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    You keep misspelling my handle, it's daiRy not daiSy. FYI
     
  4. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Asking a question to get a clarification on someone's claim, in this case your claim, is not needing to defend anything.

    The pathetic part is making baseless claims and then ad hom attacks of others asking you for clarification.
     
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    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    spellcheck problem. Sorry
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    This is not a peer-reviewed professional publication.

    Do you believe I would know the millions of names of the people who work for the three letter agencies? If a war was immoral, do I need to know all the names of everybody in the military?

    You have nothing to say.
     
  7. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    I didn't ask for a million names.
    Really, all you needed to provide is just one.

    Then it can be determined by looking at credentials of said name/person if your claim is truly baseless.
    As of now, it is truly baseless.
     
  8. impermanence

    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    How about Bill and Hillary. Can't get much more corrupt then these two. Or Obama liv'in the good life.
     
  9. Pieces of Malarkey

    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    No, it was made up by leftists upset about Bush's Department of Homeland Security, etc. However, in a rare move for the left, it actually makes sense and applies to today's DOJ and unhinged regulatory agencies like the EPA.

    The shame is that as soon as Trump showed up they've tried to bury it. And when Trump's Supreme Court buries the Deep State in this coming term, Republicans will get all the credit for it.
     
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    All the Department of Homeland Security was a government reorganization. That's it. It created a new department, but all the agencies were already in existence when it was done. For instance, Coast Guard used to be part of the Deptartment of Transportation. It is now part of Homeland Security. INS was broken up into three seperate agencies: USCIS to process the immigration and naturalization paperwork, Customs and Border Patrol was part of INS and became a separate agency, and ICE, which also was part of INS became a separate agency.

    Deep state has been used long before the US was ever conceived. It was used to refer to the Catholic Church when it was trying to create a state in which there is no separation of church and state. Then in the early 20th century, it referred to government-owned businesses that seemed to operate largely outside of government regulation. But today, it refers to the regulatory process and this concept first came about with the John Birch Society in the 1970s where regulations were rampant in those times during the Nixon, Ford, and Carter administrations.
     
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    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    Very good. So now I assume you've answered your own question as to what the Deep State is.
     
  12. dairyair

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    Now, what corruption have they done?
    And isn't the deep state those behind the scenes? Do you know what deep state even is?

    Are you now making up more?
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    You have this down to an art. You have absolutely nothing to say.
     
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    All "myths" aside below is a list of cities that actually reduced police budgets.

    • New York City
    • Washington, D.C.
    • Baltimore
    • Philadelphia
    • Los Angeles
    • San Francisco
    • Atlanta
    • Minneapolis
    • Seattle
    • Salt Lake City
    • Portland, Oregon
    • Hartford, Connecticut
    • Norman Oklahoma,
    • Austin, Texas
     
  15. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    I respond to your posts, asking for clarification. I guess that means your posts have nothing to say.
    Why not make real posts instead of posts about some conspiracy theories.
    Or at least have the ability to post some data on the stuff you post.

    What is the deep state? Who is 1 person in the deep State?

    You know, Clintons nor Obama are in politics anymore?
     
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    Sandy Shanks Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sandy Shanks said:
    In order to become President, an individual must be a natural-born citizen of the United States, be at least 35 years of age, and have lived in the country for at least 14 years. In addition, the presidential oath of office must be administered before they take office.

    Obviously, if a person is 34 years old, it does not take a judge to determine the person is ineligible to run for President. The fact that our Constitution says the person is ineligible is sufficient.
    ***********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************

    The Fourteenth Amendment added another qualification to become President. It has as much force as the original qualifications.
    "Efforts to keep former President Donald Trump off the 2024 ballot under the 14th Amendment are gaining momentum as election officials in key states are preparing for or starting to respond to legal challenges to Trump's candidacy," ABC.

    Trump has denied any involvement in the attack on the Capitol.

    “Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!” Trump tweeted on Dec. 19, 2020, one of several tweets from Trump promoting the day, the Times.

    “When you catch somebody in a fraud, you are allowed to go by very different rules."
    “We fight like hell and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”
    "Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we’re going to walk down, and I’ll be there with you. We are going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.”
    ********************************************************************************************************************************************Donald J. Trump, Jan. 6, 2021

    ABC reports, "Efforts to keep former President Donald Trump off the 2024 ballot under the 14th Amendment are gaining momentum as election officials in key states are preparing for or starting to respond to legal challenges to Trump's candidacy.

    "The argument to disqualify Trump from appearing on primary or general election ballots in 2024 boils down to Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment, which states that an elected official is not eligible to assume public office if that person "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against" the United States, or had "given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof," unless they are granted amnesty by a two-thirds vote of Congress.

    "Several advocacy groups have said that Trump's actions on Jan. 6, 2021, fit that criteria -- that he directly engaged in an insurrection.

    "Threats of filings against Trump under this clause are gaining steam in a number of states, including New Hampshire and Arizona and in Michigan, a lawsuit to disqualify Trump was filed on Monday. Secretaries of state say they have started to take steps to prepare for the possibility of administering elections without the current GOP front-runner."
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    If you really are this ignorant, then you have some reading to do. If not...

    Either way...there is no reason to continue this conversation.
     
  19. dairyair

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    There's also no reason to make baseless claims, then do nothing but ad hom attacks when asked for clarification of baseless claims.

    Ignorance is of those who make claims without justification of said claims.
     
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  20. impermanence

    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Again, this is a conversation on a political message board. You [and people like you] use these tactics when you have nothing left to say. Either say something or move on to something else you no nothing about.

    The only thing you know is your narrative...
     
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    What I answered is not the deep state. It is how government works, any government that is.
     
  22. Pieces of Malarkey

    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    Well I've already answered what the Deep State is in another thread. To use your terminology, it's when the normal government goes off the rails. Here's what I said to the other gentleman.

     
  23. dairyair

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    There's nothing to say when baseless claims are made, except to ask for proof of said claims to prove there are not baseless.

    Since you spent much of this thread on ad hom attacks instead of actually proving your claim as accurate, it only proves them to be baseless.

    My narrative to this has been to get you to clarify your claims. Of which you refuse to do, or unable to do.
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    You don't even know what a conversation is anymore. That's fine. Good luck!
     
  25. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    I do know now for sure, you can not back up your claims.
    Because they are baseless.
    You've had ample opportunities to give some data and facts to your claims. You've not given a single data point.
     

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