What the Wall is really about

No trolling you guys just haven't come up with one good reason yet.

Obama himself said in 2006 that a fence was a good idea.

Well what's the purpose of a fence?

 

Actually, you've misinterpreted my position. I am for comprehensive immigration reform and a path to citizenship for Dreamers.

My position on E-Verify is that a system to stop/ slow illegal immigration is already created and in use. It has never been applied in a way to actually slow or stop illegal immigration by holding the employer liable, because Congress has no intention of doing so. All this talk of the wall is lip service. It won't solve the problem.

 

The wall is stoping illegals crosses USA.

 

Do you actually think the wall is going to stop criminals? Pssshh! It won't.

 

NOBODY has said otherwise. I know you're too lazy to read, but you really should before you respond to these posts.

 

I'm more than willing to find out.

 

Well, tell Trump you'll gladly pay my share of taxes for it then. I don't want mine wasted on what you're willing to try.

 

No habla Ingles? Your post seems to suggest there is a struggle.

 

Then stop talking about the constitution in relation to illegal aliens.


This is much, much simpler than you all are making it. You're trying to make it complicated because then the issue gets blurry and people become distracted.

This is not about trying to dissuade them from coming here, this is not about trying to deal with the ones that are here.

This is about KEEPING THEM OUT. That simple.

 

The Trump want not much illegals to promise land and builds wall in South western USA.....

 

You don't have a choice homie. I didn't when Obama was president.

 

South California.

 

How would you know what a good reason is? You've already said you don't read the posts. You are making yourself look really silly. Your objections are a waste of bandwidth.

Since you don't read the posts, you are talking out your a**. Trolling is, I'm pretty sure, against the rules. Since you are not reading the posts, your comments are pure B.S. If you aren't going to read, you don't deserve a response AND what you're claiming about my posts is LIES.

 

I have a vote though, and my Senators and Representative know my feelings. They are not supportive of the wall.

 

I read posts, as I said, I don't read a bunch of crap people copy and paste. Provide a link instead, its common courtesy to those of us scrolling on a phone.

Now to what you said, please provide a real reason.

So far, it's been money, and a theory that it won't work. That's it. Both of which I've shot down like the scrub missiles they are.

So please, give a real reason if you can, and succinct if possible.

 

How do you guys feel about a fence?

 

Jesus bleeding godalmighty Christ, You're willing to spend 30 billions on a SYMBOL? and it being a symbol of what mean *******s we are to boot? And THAT'S what you guys call SOVERIGNTY? Dude, you're insulting the very WORD

 

If you're ok with a fence, but you're against a wall, then you are a retard. Period.

And I'll add that if you don't even want a fence, then you don't want any borders of any kind and you are a true leftist.

And that type of honesty I can at least respect.

 

Hey, I like Latinos. I just believe we need a legal way for them to migrate here so we can keep out the criminals while allowing in the law abiding family oriented ones I know of.

I do not know of anyone who wants to completely stop immigration.

 

Exactly, which is even more reason to control the borders. But it seems you are OK with that exploitation....sad.

 

There is already a fence where a fence makes sense. Can you fence a river? Can you fence a gorge?

 

Immigration = Good!
Illegal Immigration = Bad!

Not sure why some people struggle with this.

 

Yes you can fence a river it's done to keep certain animals out of certain areas but what the hell does that stupid point have to do with this?

If a fence makes sense, then why doesn't a wall? They serve the same exact purpose, only one is much, much more effective.

 

I provide no "theory" son. I provided you with facts. There is a reason your wall won't work:

America was founded on the premise that we are the New Jerusalem of the Bible. From the first governing document of the New World (the Mayflower Compact) to the many sermons preached during the formation of our country to sermons like "The United States of America Foretold in the Holy Scriptures delivered before Congress in 1857 - AND - all the way up to Ronald Reagan acknowledging our culture and our heritage in his 1974 speech. He said:

"Standing on the tiny deck of the Arabella in 1630 off the Massachusetts coast, John Winthrop said, "We will be as a city upon a hill. The eyes of all people are upon us, so that if we deal falsely with our God in this work we have undertaken and so cause Him to withdraw His present help from us, we shall be made a story and a byword throughout the world. Well, we have not dealt falsely with our God, even if He is temporarily suspended from the classroom. ..."
We are indeed, and we are today, the last best hope of man on earth"

http://reagan2020.us/speeches/City_Upon_A_Hill.asp

"I’ve spoken of the Shining City all my political life. … In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That’s how I saw it, and see it still.'"

Source: Ronald Reagan Farewell Address. Cited in Amos Kiewe and Davis W. Houck, "A Shining City on a Hill. Ronald Reagan's Economic Rhetoric, 1951-1989".

America was founded as that city without walls (Zechariah 2 : 4)

You absolutely cannot screw with a nation's destiny - especially predicated upon lies and hope that anything good will come from it.

 

If you can't figure it out, you didn't read the thread. So, for the record, you are for a set of laws forced through Congress by a liberal Democrat that favored non-white immigrants over whites? Simple yes or no.