What Was the CDC Thinking? As if Anti-Vaxxers Would Voluntarily Wear Masks to Protect Others.

That honor system was one of the dumbest moves the CDC could make?!!
That why this delta variant is sweeping the the country, because the unvaccinated are not wearing masks?!! Maybe it's time for a new CDC director too?!!

Here we are with a primarily Red State surge of COVID, 95% or more among the unvaccinated.

This is occurring in the summer season, when last year the rates dipped down. Some Red State governors with low vaccination rates and high current infection, hospitalization and death rates are taking a 180 degree turn and now encouraging vaccinations. That includes vaccination obstructer GOP Alabama Governor Kay Ivey, whose state now ties for the lowest vaccination rate in the nation, and Florida Governor Ron “Trump Mini-Me” DeSantis whose state is highest in the nation in new infections. In fact, according to CNN: "For the second week in a row, one in five of all cases are occurring in Florida alone.”

So Ivey, DeSantis and many other GOP officials who have downplayed the vaccine and the need for vaccination are now panicking for two reasons: 1) at least 95 out of 100 COVID deaths now are largely Republican voters who won’t be around for the next elections; and 2) polling must be indicating that Republican politicians are facing a voter backlash because friends and relatives are dying due to Trump’s legacy that the remaining unvaccinated was defying the “liberal science-believing government state.”

That brings us back to the CDC decision not long ago to no longer recommend requiring masking in enclosed public spaces. What were they thinking?

https://buzzflash.com/articles/what-...protect-others

 

the CDC was giving advice based on the science

the fact that Trump supporters did not follow their advice is not the fault of the CDC

I do not think the CDC should lie to us cause they know people will abuse the facts

sadly some of the unvaccinated are paying the price now

police officers were offered the vaccine in January... he refused, said he had an immune system

"Anti-Mask Cop Dies From COVID-19"

 

Silly people think unvaccinated people not sick with Covid are a danger and the vaccinated sick with Covid aren’t.

This is a great example of people succumbing to propaganda and social pressure.

 

so true

 

Of course you have nothing intelligent to add.

 

that all you got?

 

Some info on masks

 

Guilty until innocent, right?

 

Says the one who posts cartoons.

 

oh, you got me again, you're on a roll, keep it up

 

I'm sorry friend but that simply isn't true. At the time the guidance was changed there was practically no "science" to speak of. At tat time - it was empirically unproven if the vaccine would work against the variants surging through other countries, and it was empirically unproven if the vaccine would mean that a vaccinated person couldn't still spread COVID. There was broad theory, yes, but there was basically no conclusive evidence to form a learned opinion, it was simply too soon to make the gamble that they did. Even the CDC director herself said only a couple of days after the Biden White House ordered the unmasking that vaccinated people should keep their masks on specifically because of those two unknown factors. Shortly after that the WHO said the same thing. They turned out to be 100% correct and now we have Surgeons General and other highly respected individuals/organizations saying it was a premature mistake.

Whatever the reasons the Biden Administration issued this guidance, "the science" wasn't one of them. It just literally couldn't have been given the timeline. The Biden Administration ****ed us on this one. Because even if they had a better understanding at the time of those two factors it was still a stupid ass decision given the reality that half the country (who were already anti-maskers) were just going to take advantage of this. Nah, this move had nothing to do with science. Its almost as if it was an intentional act to ensure that Delta (which they knew was in the US at the time) would spread.

 

I've never seen you add anything intelligent to a conversation ... just one liners ... you should change your screen name to Henny Youngman ...

 

the vaccine targets the spikes

natural immunity may not target the variants, but at this point the science is showing the vaccine will in people fully vaccinated

so it's Biden's CDC now and must have been Trump's CDC then?

 

I thank the patriotic Americans that got the vaccine

 

The vaccine seems to offer less protection against Delta variant infection.

 

nope, it's been doing well with the variants

 

Why do vaccinated people need protection from unvaccinated?

 

The vaccine programs the cells to produce one of the spike proteins that the immune system reacts to. Covid has more than just one type of spike protein. That is why the vaccine is not as good as natural immunity.

 

Fortunately, Delta seems to be less fatal.

UK: Vaccination, a dud against Delta variant? 50% of recent deaths is of those vaccinated with jabs
Britan is a testing ground for how vaccines are coping, Delta is racing through the country—with 146,000 identified cases in the past week, 72% up on the week before, reports WSJ.
https://newsroompost.com/coronaviru...is-of-those-vaccinated-with-jabs/2633369.html

 

That's nice but we're talking about masks. And the order to change the guidance is signed off on by the White House and in this case also came from the White House.

 

Some maintain that there is an inverse relationship between the amount of bold print and exclamation points and the intelligence of a claim.

The coronavirus is 0.12 microns in diameter. Cloth masks are 80-500 microns. And they are effectively zero if you wear it under your nose, or if I can see all of your nose when you lean your head forward.

If you are vaccinated, what do you care if someone else is not?

Fake News. Death rates aren't up. The vast majority of the cases are not serious. Our 7 day moving average of daily deaths is 266/day. We cross 300/deaths/Day in March 2020 and didn't drop below it until June 29, 2021 and for all the fear mongering and the vaccinated virtue signalling, we remain below it despite the Delta surge.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/#graph-cases-daily

Now this virus is manmade, our first pandemic from a pathogen out of a lab, so we don't know that our universal experience will apply, but, normally as pathogens go through time they become more infectious and less deadly and that seems to be what we are seeing here. Do try to review the data rather than being led about by the nose by the lying Fake News Media.

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5,178,592 total cases
6,760 serious cases
99.9% not serious
0.1% serious

Seriously, who in their right mind goes into a full blown panic over a disease that if you catch it, you have a 99.9% chance of not having a serious case?

Who in their right mind would condemn their fellow American for choosing not to risk vaccine injury when the risk of getting a serious case is zero until the 3rd decimal point?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table

 

FYI, there was no natural immunity to small pox nor polio, hence the inoculations.

 

That is not how it played out. We were told to wear masks, wash our hands (gross that has to be a reminder) and socially distance. They instilled panic throughout the world while they played politics.

Then we were told the vaccine was coming but we must remain vigilante. We were told over and over that we would have to keep the masks and socially distance even after the vaccination.

We were told we could still catch and transmit the virus AFTER vaccination. So, what's the point of the vaccination?

Then, it was the vaccination is still important because it lessens the severity but no real "snapshot" on how that translated to the other long-term complications in various body systems.

It is not Biden's job to tell us what is best regarding COVID. He can speak on it. He can offer his opinion but the responsibility to provide accurate, thorough and timely recommendations rests with Fauci. Fauci has lost credibility because he lied to us about masks early one and he was seen in public with a mask under his chin while the "official" line was "wear your masks in public at all times".

We can pay the Blame Game from now to the end of time. It doesn't matter. We are responsible for making our own choices irrespective of what anybody else says or does. It's not realistic to say we don't want a "nanny state" but cry foul when the government is a horrible nanny. They've always managed to mess up EVERY SINGLE THING IN EVERY SINGLE FACET they've gone near. Why would we or should we expect it to be better this time around?

 

There is 40-60% of some immunity to Covid as tested t-cells in pre-Covid blood samples.

Four of our current flu viruses are corona viruses. H1N1 for example.