What you know about Russia?

Discussion in 'Russia & Eastern Europe' started by FROM THE USSR, Aug 4, 2010.

  1. Rexody

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    Since now no bargain!

    Nothing!

    Any Russian political actor whe will only dare to mention some kind of bargain must go West!
     
  2. Albert Di Salvo

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    I have some passing knowledge of the division in Ukraine. But thanks for the clarification.
     
  3. Albert Di Salvo

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    You can't expect America to give up European missile defenses unless you have something to offer in exchange. If you don't have something to give us in exchange Russia will have to live with European missile defenses. Medvedev's threat to target the missile defense installations is no big deal. The use of Russian missiles against those bases will produce a response of equal magnitude.
     
  4. raymondo

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    It's about right , though as far as population decline is concerned you must in fairness take into account the huge number they lost in Afghanistan and are still leaking in the Civil War with the Caucasus Emirate . There are also huge problems with T.B. and HIV with all of the normal associated drug problems -- much of it trafficked by the FSB ( see recent case in Tajikistan_.
    You are right about the undisclosed level of existing " Communist and Stalin" activity and support . Even Gorbachev this week pointed out that the United Russia party is really just a thin cover for a Communist type of organisation .
    As for Putin waiting in the wings for re-election .
    He has never been out of control for one minute whilst Medvedev was nominal President .
    If you know their backgrounds you will see that Medvedev worked for and advised Putin from 1991 when they both worked under Sobchak in St Petersburg . Later Putin brought Dmitri to Moscow after Berezovsky effectively got him Presidential nomination . Medvedev has always been the number two . Putin simply does not " do" number two positions --- acquaint yourself with his Biography and you will understand why .
     
  5. Rexody

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    It's not we!

    You haven't understood what had happened!


    It's you who have to live with European missile defence installations!


    It's not for Russians to fear an equal magnitide!
     
  6. Albert Di Salvo

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    Are you suggesting that Russia is under the impression it can attack American missile defense bases without response? If so, why would you think America won't respond?
     
  7. Rexody

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    I think that Russia looked around and found herself in situation close to that one of April - May of the 1941 when all Europe had been bent to the Nazi heel with German Armies roaming somewhere near Soviet Borders. The Nazi onslaught may be you don't know began on the 22 June!

    Of course America will respond!

    However the advantage will be Russian as they will fight on the their own borders contrary to American forces deployed at a long distance from their Homeland!
     
  8. MaxRiga

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    I told you like 10 times already and I can kindly repeat - I might be wrong in historian facts and this why I never say it. I also never called my self historian. But my opinion is always based on facts. Even if someone doesn't like it.
    At the same time I've noticed you try to avoid the reality by speaking of middle ages stories. That was funny but I don't want to waste my time on it so I was off from the conversation. I also want to remind you that I didn't even try to impose my opinion on anybody.

    Well, my friend, now you look even worse then before. You know nothing about me but u made some conclusions about me. Nice try but you missed in everything except that I'm connected to Riga city some how :) And I afraid this might be a bad "diagnosis" for you :)))
     
  9. Albert Di Salvo

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    I'm familiar with Operation Barbarossa.

    American forces aren't going to fight on Russian soil. Any response to a Russian attack on American missile defenses in Europe will likely be in the form of Prompt Global Strike flying under your radar at hypersonic speeds from North American bases. Prompt Global Strike is a military breakthrough. There is no defense.
     
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    It begins with an 'r' and ends with a 'ussia'.

    And I love their national anthem...it sounds great.
     
  11. Rexody

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    Don't say things you know nothing of!
    We know about your Prompt Global Strike nad have no the slightest fear as in any case our air missile technology is no match!

    I even don't want to comment it. I see you look too much ads on the USA television. We see the same programms about anti missile to finish with any PGS!

    I any case it changes nothing as Russia remains and will remain the only country to wipe out in the USA in 30 minutes!


    So it's your problem how to live on!
     
  12. Albert Di Salvo

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JejYWMGNBxA"]All Hail the Messiah - YouTube[/ame]
     
  13. Albert Di Salvo

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    My god, what you're saying essentially is that Russia has nothing with which to bargain. If you don't have anything to offer us, then the missile defense bases will be built.

    Attack them preemptively if you wish. I don't think you have the stones to do that. Russians have been rationale for my lifetime. They want to live. They won't strike first. And America isn't going to attack Russia unless Russia strikes first.
     
  14. Rexody

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    Have you ever seen an infuriated Russian Army at a distance of 10 steps?

    Have you ever seen a disgusting working tank beside you?

    War is no a video games where you sit in an comfortable armchair relying completely on a different gadgets on remote control. If you begin shooting you'll have to go all the way without having a reset button at hand!


    You don't understand what you 're talking about when you're saying about stones. Who told you that rubbish?
    If you intentionally step on their toes they will find you every where no matter how well organised, trained and supplied your or somebody's else Army!
     
  15. raymondo

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    Putin has amassed some $100 billion personal wealth and it has taken him exactly 20 years to do this .
    That's for his retirement and various lady friends .
    He's not going to "blow" his retirement on a silly spat with anybody . And for reasons outside the scope of this thread , he won't be falling out with the US .
    He soon quit his blustering when Bush finally warned him to get of Georgia ," or else" , on August 12 th 2008 .
     
  16. Rexody

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    No money at all to corrupt and degenerating Europe and USA.

    I wonder how really corrupt England whose swindlers turn a blind eyes to their own dirty tricks finding fault with other people and nations?
     
  17. Albert Di Salvo

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfIbSuiqm90"]"Strike Anywhere" Weapon A Success - YouTube[/ame]
     
  18. Rexody

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    Listen up!

    I'm not that young to look to animated cartoons all the more so that a good designer will make them hundreds to somtbody's order!

    I'm not going to change your mind!

    You've been told what to do!


    This is your problem since yesterday's evening!
     
  19. KGB agent

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    USA is trading with China. Does it makes USA and China allies?
    It seems to be nothing more but a political rubbish. Just like "destroying Israel". And they still have no missile with range big enough to hit USA from Venezuela.
    I just love USA politic.
    Stage 1)-Creating a problem
    Stage 2)-Offering to "solve" the problem in exchange on something useful
    Stage 3)-PROFIT!!!!111
    Not going to work with us. What about you decline putting missiles there and in exchange we won't transfer some tech and equipment to your "friends"?
    Not more than you.
    Yeah. Seems like another useless conception.
    Sorry I didn't get why you decided to bring Poland here?
    IF it acquires nukes. There is no proof, that they are working on it. Except for "Iraq has biological weapons!!1111" sort of proof. But I would understand them if they are working on it really. In modern world this is the only way to save your people of Empire of Goodness bombing you with democracy. Just look at North Korea now. USA won't dare to attack it now.
     
  20. Albert Di Salvo

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    Since Russia has nothing to offer, the missile defense bases will be build. The next move is Russia's.
     
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    Let me guess.
    1)Breaking middle-range missiles agreement.
    2)Giving some AA missiles to Taliban.
    3)Giving ICBM tech to Iran....and may be nukes:mrgreen:
     
  22. Albert Di Salvo

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    The way to circumscribe the military power of any great power is to provide nuclear weapons to the states surrounding the great power. Start with Poland, and end with Japan.
     
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    Continue with Venezuela and Cuba. And Mexico. And Canada. Should be funny.
     
  24. Albert Di Salvo

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    Canada and Mexico have the same type of relationship with America as Russia has with Mongolia and Khazkhstan.

    Venezuela and Cuba will be attacked preemptively if they attempt to acquire nuclear weapons.
     
  25. KGB agent

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    It works only with not-nuclear Mexico and Canada. I'm not so sure nuclear Mexico will tolerate gringo influence.

    There won't be any "attempt". We'll just give it to them in one day.

    Don't you see, that your "give us smth in exchange for solving problems, which are created with ourselves" is an epic fail?
     

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