When did our Values of "Life and Liberty" become Pro Death instead?

They could send it to people who normally distribute food to the poor. That's done all the time

 

Your pro death values place the Almighty Dollar over and above the lives of your fellow citizens. You consider them to be expendable in the interests of making PROFITS for the greed obsessed Wall Street Casino Banksters.

Sad!

 

You do realize there's like MILLIONS of small businesses and ma and pa chains right? You realize that they're actually the ones suffering the most and not big corporate greedy fat pigs?

 

How fitting is it to think you have liberty in your death, to preserve some greater system that would see you dead in the name of its ideals. I'm sure the communists murdered in purges were comforted by such thoughts as well. There is no honor in that, a body paraded around as a symbol is not a life saved, it is a tool. To say you honor a person's individual life, only to use it as an instrument for death? You can not have both.

 

Our rural county of 38K has 28 cases.

 

Bill Maher must be happy, we got that recession he wanted.

 

Sure. They did it all the time. But the system that used to work all the time is breaking down. That is why farmers are dumping milk, euthanizing chickens and leaving crops to rot in the fields. That food is being wasted as we speak. It is food that you won't get to eat, I won't get to eat, nobody will get to eat. That spells famine to me.

You don't have a solution and cavalierly assume the answer is easy.

 

Do you forget the content of the post of yours that I originally replied to?

 

We have the ultimate liberty in our death, we're no longer in pain and suffering. Why do you think they say "rest in PEACE?" Not that that means I'm rushing to my death, or disregarding my life. But that for life to have any meaning, we must live by the values we hold and we have to defend them.

 

That does not alter the fact that you placing the value of the Almighty Dollar over and above the lives of your fellow citizens.

 

But the only "value" that you are giving up the lives of your fellow citizens for is the Almighty Dollar, nothing else matters.

 

Well, people, you just got the evidence for why you shouldn't vote Democratic. Values are expendable, rights too for that matter. After all, we can't possibly risk getting sick and dying! And if we do that, we're slaves to the almighty corporate monsters and their need for profit.

 

No you won't find peace in death. Because when you give into ideals to the point of martyrdom you miss the point of living, you cease to be an individual. You can swap your life out for another martyrs and you will be the same. You're already dead to the world. You gave up your individual will, and that pollutes how you see how others should act.

 

What good is individual freedom if it causes the death of others?

I understand - from your posts - that you are worried about American values. That they are being abandoned. But I can't think of any better values than a country that cares for others rather than themselves. That puts the health of strangers above their own need for 'stuff'.

I also understand your concern for small business owners. I do too, being one. But what good is opening the business if it means more people die? Are you willing to take that risk? For yourself? For others you love?

 

What good is individual freedom if it causes the death of others?

I understand - from your posts - that you are worried about American values. That they are being abandoned. But I can't think of any better values than a country that cares for others rather than themselves. That puts the health of strangers above their own need for 'stuff'.

I also understand your concern for small business owners. I do too, being one. But what good is opening the business if it means more people die? Are you willing to take that risk? For yourself? For others you love?

 

Martyrdom is what we're doing now. Falling on our own swords, just to try and avoid the coronavirus. But we CAN'T avoid it. We're not even really delaying it. We have more tests then ANY other country. If they had 6 million tests, their numbers would all look dramatically different.

This is us, capsizing on American values and now we call it martyrdom. I wish the framers could see the gutlessness that exists in the American Homeland today. Not the same country that won WW2. It has the same name, but not the same fabric.

 

Is your position relying on a whole number for statistics?

And how their corpses roll in their graves as people use them to justify the deaths of thousands, for some ideal that the survivors will never feel it was worth the cost. Do you not see the death you worship? That is not an ideal worth following, they deprive individuals of their lives. Of what it means to have individual worth outside of the ideals. The only use of an individual is what it's worth in service of some ideals. That's not life. That's martyrdom. That's worshiping the death of people.

 

How did you manage to get that ASSBACKWARDS?

 

Radicalization. We're seeing symptoms of societal failure everywhere we look.

 

Didn't read thread. What a massive exercise in bootstrapping speculation and magical thinking in the OP. Not surprised given the source.

 

If you are afraid to live your life, you have already died.

 

To the point you die for some ideals that claim this is the only way to live life? That's not life, that's sacrifice for some greater good that doesn't care about sacrifice.

 

So we should just stay locked down and perish in poverty?

 

You make do, whatever that means for you to make do. That's the whole point. We make do.

 

Essentially. It's actually kind of sad seeing them with this mentality. It's not a mentality befitting the USA. They're the ones advocating Stalinism and they don't see it.