When is the CDC gonna demand US borders be closed to immigration?

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    Masks minimize the spread and death from Covid more than not wearing a mask but not by much. The highly susceptible to Covid still contract Covid (and many die) even when they wear masks and those who aren't susceptible to Covid who don't wear masks may not know they have Covid unless they're tested.

    Covid is a virus and enters via any human orifice. The nose, the mouth, the ears the eyes etc. The mask covers just the nose and mouth. What the mask does is protect the non Covid-sick from the Covid sick. Problem is the Covid virus lives for days.
     
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    But the Biden Administration is allowing the bussing of processed illegals into border Texas towns. How is that preventing the spread of the variant?...Putting it another way, the bussing into Texas border towns is spreading the variant.

    This is what I mean when I say I play chess (and, maybe, you play checkers).
     
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    Correct. It does not protect anyone 100%. The goal was to reduce the spread from the mask wearer to others around them

    You keep repeating you saw something on TV, so what can I say other than provide cold hard facts, like that they threw out 178 000 illegals in June, and almost as many on other months. There were busses unloaded in El Paso etc in 2020 as well, but that did not mean they were not enforcing the emergency rules. They were enforced in 2020 and they are 2021.

    No further comment. I am not seeking your agreement.

    You play roulette and hope you hit a good number. Some would call it "throwing crap on the wall and hope it sticks".
     
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    The mask covers just the nose and mouth while the Covid enters any orifice of the human body and the Covid virus lives for days. No, the mask isn't good to prevent the spread nor death from Covid.
     
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    That's why they say you should also wash your hands + practice social distancing + other measures. Simple things can reduce the risk, even if they dont eliminate it.
     
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    Title 42 is enforced by the Biden Administration but the Biden administration also allows the bussing of processed illegals into border Texas towns. This would be like digging a trench around a wildfire to contain the wildfire then starting a fire within the dug trench.:roll:
     
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    It can be both. Biden is expelling some while the left as a whole are for open borders.
     
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    Quarantining the highly susceptible from the not so susceptible would stop the spread and quarantining the Covid-sick from the non Covid-sick would also eliminate the spread.
     
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    It is both. Biden is expelling via Title 42 and is bussing illegals to border Texas towns.
     
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    That's weird, because I never heard anyone say they want to open the borders.

    Do you happen to have a quote with someone saying it?

    You are changing your argument. You said they are letting them pour in, but they are not letting them pour in, they are arresting them and vast majority is being sent back, which means Title 42 is being enforced.

    Its like people insist on ignoring facts and figures. Is there a reason why you want to believe something that was already proven false?
     
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    Biden is obviously a racist.

    It's actually also funny that the Biden Covid plan is mainly about getting the Trump vaccine distributed, something Trump couldn't do because Biden was coming into office at the time the vaccine rolled out, the same vaccines that Trump prepaid for, for all Americans, the same "rushed" vaccine that the left spent one year telling Americans not to get. The Biden plan for Covid is mostly about the Trump vaccine, he has no plan of his own. Trump was also blamed for not wanting lockdowns or not being pro-mask wearing and yet here we are under Biden, with them resisting both masking up and not wanting lockdowns as the virus cases rise in every state and we've got many leftist state and local governments wanting to go back to business as usual while Obama throws a party of 600.
     
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    So , basically what you are saying is the Trump is a LOSER.

    Thanks for that clarification.
     
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    I don't know. To make it appear that the Biden Administration wants to prevent illegals from further infecting Americans while illegals are being bussed into border Texas towns by the Biden Administration and Americans are being infected?

    Notice: The Biden Administration doesn't publicize the bussing of illegals to Texas border towns.
     
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    One large order of Reynolds wrap, please, to go !
     
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    So, now you are saying CBP is lying / fabricating the deportation numbers........ Allrighty then.

    The mind of a conspiracy theorist is a mysterious place.

    Is the Border Patrol lying when they say they threw 178 000 illegals out in June? Why would they lie?

    I don't play games. I am a fact checker. You....not so much.

    Why would CBP lie?

    No kidding.
     
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    Trump paid or it or the taxpayer paid for it?

    No, they didnt say that. Why make stuff up.
     
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    You need to include my whole post when you quote it because in that whole post I surmised that the Biden Administration is appearing to deport illegals to their countries of origin while the BA also doesn't deport illegals to their countries of origin.
     
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    LOL. Of course the left don't say they are for open borders, while they sue the Biden administration for not having open borders. The left don't use the words but every action and policy they take shows that they ARE for open borders. Saying so would be politically bad so they don't say it.
     
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    So, you're saying that Biden is a loser? Thanks for that clarification.
     
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    I asked why the US Border Patrol would lie and cook the books and you gave the following answer to explain why they would lie. IOTW you are saying they are lying, and that post is supposed to explain why they lie. Me thinks you'll believe any conspiracy that you hear.

     
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    I don't remember paying for it and I'm a taxpayer. It is obvious that you can't think past "me hateum Trump". The left, including Biden and Harris, told Americans not to get the Trump rushed vaccine. They said it repeatedly. After Biden won and took office, all of a sudden it was no longer the Trump rushed vaccine, it was the Biden rushed vaccine and they encouraged everyone to get it, you know, the very same vaccines that were worked on while Trump was president and that Trump had our government prepay for enough doses for all Americans.
     
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    Ok, so you say they are for open borders, but you can't find anyone asking for open borders.........everyone is just supposed to believe you...... And you call yourself a 'thinker'.

    Ok, fine, you say every policy they take are for opening the border. Can you name one which is designed to open the border?
     
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    Then you don't have the faintest clue how the government pays for things.

    Knowing Trump didn't pay for the vaccine doesn't mean I hate Trump. The US government aka the taxpayer paid for it. How can you not know that?
     
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    Seriously? The borders are already open! That's why illegals are pouring in daily. EVERY leftist policy is for open borders. The leftist are suing now over 42. The trouble with the left is they don't believe anyone is an illegal. Not one person. The very second they get across the border the left call them an immigrant and don't want them to leave. They try every trick in the book so that these people can stay.
     
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    So, you're saying that you like Trump? Convince me.
     

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