When noob truthers embarrass themselves, unseen debunkers emerge from everywhere

http://911datasets.org/index.php/FAA_RADES_NORAD_FOIA_Data

pdf's are under Pentagon > VDOT though I would recommend downloaded the entire package so you can listen to all the air traffic control and military recordings of that day. Gives you a very good insight into exactly how things went.

 

Your link says that an entire Boeing 757 went inside here:



That only deepens the mystery.

Wow it looks like the terrorist was actually trying to land the plane at 500 mph and crash it onto the lawn rather than reach the target. What your link shows:

 

Truthers when faced with facts, moved the goalposts. it is funny to watch sometimes and then I am reminded that they are building their egos on the graves of thousands of Americans. It is pathetic.

 

In case you're referring to me, I didn't move any goalposts. cjnewson88 invited me to look at that link which he said is a well known, overwhelming 98% convincing evidence database that a 757 hit there:

If I am moving goalposts then you are moving the entire football stadium.

 

Would you be kind enough to download the receipts you mentioned and upload them in a post here so everyone can see them?

 

For the individual who posts this bit as a sig line,
Please consider this, in the "FLT77" aircraft there had to be at a minimum, 50 tons of aluminum and metal doesn't simply disappear, it either has to oxidize or be melted, in any case how do you hide 50 tons of either aluminum oxide or melted aluminum? The pictures of the Pentagon wreckage do not show the mass quantities of material that would have to be present in order to prove that an airliner was there at all.

 

Argument from incredulity. Back up this claim with sources, please.

 

I can not prove the absence of 50 tons of melted aluminum, however given that 9/11/2001 was allegedly so well documented, where is it documented that 50 tons of aluminum scrap or for that matter in the form of aluminum oxide if the plane "burned up" where is it documented that all that material was indeed removed from the Pentagon?

 

Why can't you download them yourself?

 

Because it wasn't absent.

 

Then can you point to documentation of the mass quantities of aircraft that had to be removed from the Pentagon? Was it ever taken to a hanger or other location where it could be sorted and classified as to what it was?

 

I have pointed it out to you many times. You refuse to read it.

Let me ask you: The insurance companies who investigated the crash: were THEY 'in on it', too?

 

Why is this so important to you?

The plane slammed into a 18 inch limestone,cement and brick wall re enforced with Kevlar,and you're wondering why they didn't catalog ever scrap of literal confetti that was left?

 

In this case G-bob has a good excuse, assuming he's just pathologically misinformed. Attempts to find any non-tinfoil references to the Pentagon crash are overwhelmed by conspiracy spam website results in Google searches. Which brings us back to my reply about "lucrative interests" in this post:
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=372815&p=1064247441#post1064247441

Many people motivated to make a buck off the 911 tragedy went out of their way to junk up the internet with conspiracy websites making it almost impossible for the casual researcher to find anything not tinfoil related.

In these situations I've learned to cut through the garbage and go straight to wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories#The_Pentagon

Even that's inadequate. This slideshow at FBI's website has images rarely used by "truthers":
http://vault.fbi.gov/9-11-attacks-i...terials/9-11-attacks-and-investigation-images

Like this one, showing how big the damage was:
http://vault.fbi.gov/9-11-attacks-i...s/Image/9-11-pentagon-interior-13/image_large

 

If it made confetti out of the aircraft, why then was the damage so far into the building? and again an opportunity to say "OH BUT THE AIRPLANE WAS GOING SOOOO FAST! " ..... great?!?!?!?!?!

 

you DO understand what a 'figure of speech' is,don't you?

 

I'm beginning to suspect I've been put on ignore. Which would be sad but funny.

 

Because I can't. I either have the wrong display app for that kind of picture or something else but I can't, nor did I find the specific files he's talking about. He says he's seen them before so I ask of him to show them! If he can prove through these receipts that the Department of Transportation security cameras including camera 740 were installed after in 2003, after 9/11 then I'm waiting. If it's in the interest of the debunkers then why didn't he show them himself? Why ask me to see something for myself in private if he says he can prove me wrong publicly? But I, on my part, couldn't find them, and I have problems displaying lots of things on my computer.

 

Facts, for example.

 

The link again:

http://911datasets.org/index.php/FAA_RADES_NORAD_FOIA_Data

You need a torrent client such as uTorrent to download it. Click the blue part next to where it says "Download link". Then click the .torrent file it downloads and it will automatically open in uTorrent and begin to download. It may take a while. But it's all worth it. For your first time it will allow you to do actual research with raw information. I strongly suggest all here download the information from that page.

More to the point, it doesn't mention the camera numbers specifically, but here are the more relevant documents. You will find the others when your download is complete.

 

Not having specific camera identities listed is a show-stopper.
Documentation needs to be complete and fully document what is alleged to have happened. This sort of half measures will not do. Note that the mainstream media mentioned people who had a view of the highway outside the Pentagon by way of a traffic cam, being shocked by what they saw, but there was never any follow-up or interview on camera for any of the people who had seen whatever it is they saw.
There is something VERY rotten here.

 

*Most of the time Liberals (Leftists) humiliate themselves by trying to Insult others...

`Liberal, Just Another Word for Stupid.....`I can’t tell you how many times I’ve asked myself how it is that many of my fellow Americans can actually go out and vote for some of these people ....There is no intelligent argument that can be made for liberalism. All any of them can do is parrot the same insipid sound bites dreamed up by the likes of Barack Obama, James Carville, David Axelrod, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, and regurgitated ad nauseam by Jay Carney......


`There is a very good reason why there’s nobody on the Left who is comparable to Charles Krauthammer, Mark Levin, Thomas Sowell, Brit Hume, Ann Coulter, Dennis Prager, Walter Williams, Mark Steyn, Steve Hayes, Bernie Goldberg, Harry Stein, Michael Medved, Mark Alexander, Bret Baier, Michelle Malkin and Lou Dobbs.

*The reason is that liberals `never think for themselves`. Aside from plotting how to game the system in order to steal elections, none of them ever has an original thought. Even questioning Barack Obama is regarded as an act of heresy.....


http://www.bernardgoldberg.com/liberal-just-another-word-for-stupid/

 

First of all, this is NOT a "liberals" Vs "conservatives" battle!
It really doesn't matter what political party you vote for or for that matter what religion you are or anything of the sort.

The critical bit of data here is do you totally believe the official story about 9/11/2001, or do you question it? Do you get what FALSE FLAG means?

This isn't rocket science, the official story stinks!

Yes, 9/11/2001 was a terrorist attack, but are we absolutely certain as to the identity of the terrorists?

 

Not at all. Now you're just making excuses.

Why don't you ask John Farmer himself, he made the FOIA request for the work order on those specific cameras. That is the information they gave to him regarding those cameras. He goes under BCR on the JREF forum, go talk to him. On top of that why can't you provide some form of evidence that shows the VDOT cameras were there on 9/11? I'll tell you why you can't, because they weren't there.

Yet again there is nothing rotten. You are looking at a non-existent piece of a very large puzzle and saying the whole picture is a lie. My blog shows unequivocally that AAL77 hit the Pentagon on 9/11. Whether there is blurry footage or no footage at all, all the evidence shows AAL77 hit the Pentagon.

http://therightbloggerbastard.blogspot.co.nz

You're fighting a losing argument here boy. Against my blog you have nothing.

 

Then please be so kind as to account for the >50 tons of aluminum that had to have been removed from the Pentagon either in melted and re-solidified chunks or in mass quantities of aluminum oxide, the problem of course is that it can not be accounted for because it wasn't ever there.
"FLT77" did not hit the PENTAGON.