Whether BLM protests are violent or not is NOT the question

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Looks like you have given up trying to make any sense....

That often happens on the right during electoral years. And it gets worse as the election approaches. So please do not wind up so soon. Save some for the week before the elections. That's when nuttiness like this really tends to explode on the right.

 

You mean like in "wear a lot of talcum powder on your face"?

 

Nonsense. Violence isn't the answer to anything no matter the demands. Are the demands justified? I'm not sure what the demands are. Some BLM leaders say looting is justified as reparations. I'm not on board with that. Some BLM leaders say they are marxists. I'm not on board with that. They say they want to replace American culture and government with a culture and government more appealing to them. As such this is a revolution. I'm not on board with that either. Is it about black lives? Doesn't seem like that to me. So no, the demands are not justified in my view.

So let us say that black lives are the issue with the majority of BLM people. it is just the leaders that are off the mark. Last year 9 unarmed blacks were killed by police and 18 unarmed whites met the same fate. Tragic? No question about that. Systemic? Not even close. There were more than 10 million arrests last year. Shootings of unarmed suspects is incredibly rare. Would it be good to make these shootings even more rare? Of course, but violence is not a way to achieve that. It just creates more crime and more opportunity for more shootings.

I can't disagree with you more strongly.

 

Police presence is not the issue. The issue is cops' tendency to disproportionately kill black people in many areas of the country.

 

So, literally altering my comments to make them appear to say the opposite if what I said, now... thats a lying bitch move. If you want to maintain some credibility, debate honestly.

Im not going to define what Patrisse Cullors of BLM meant when she literally said on video, regarding her and her founding partner 'we are trained marxists.' Why don't you try and get her to explain the relevence and meaning of her own statement, instead of trying to challenge me on it? I'm just quoting her.

Also, I'll stop repeating it when you stop editing me...

I agree the notion that protesters would be more violent without self described 'trained marxists' 'keeping protests from exploding' (your claim, not Trump's) is nonsense. Im quoting you and BLM activists here, not Trump...

The crossover between protesters and looters is substantial enough that the movement necessarily suffers from it, yet they have taken no measures to try and separate themselves from it, and in fact support it to a degree, evidensed by some BLM organizers (as they call themselves) attempting to re-narrate the looting as 'wealth redistribution'.

If they were against it, they would denounce it and try to separate from it, not try to justify and reframe it.

 

Please quote laws/rules that prevent anyone from having a normal and peaceful encounter with police if they comply and follow policeman’s requests.

 

But he democrats are wanting to reduce the number of police. It is supposedly to help the blacks. But the blacks want the same or more police presence. It doesn't compute. Even you should be able to admit that it just isn't working.

 

No, I mean Be Equal.

 

It's actually part of the BLM demands list. If you actually supported them you would know this.

 

I’ll admit I haven’t read all your links. Mainly because the first one you provided does not support your premise. It’s hard to take this stuff seriously when information presented to support it is misrepresented. If what you claim is true why supply a link containing evidence to the contrary? I’ll share a pull quote from the conclusions section of the analysis you linked to.

While I’m adamantly opposed to all police brutality and abuse of power (for racial reasons or any others) there’s just too much BS involved in this movement for me to get on board.

 

Just like Global Warming, Carbon Credits, etc... The list goes on and on. It's all about the money. Just have a look at the colleges indoctrination centers, opposing views are routinely drummed off campus. Just try to get a word in edgewise. My supervisor at work has a liberal arts degree. He spent a lot of years at the college as an assistant professor. The political crap he spews at me is off the chart stupid. I find it incredulous that he reached 60 years old and still believes that stuff. He spent years at the college with no tenure, no benefits, nothing but indoctrination. Other than that he's a fairly intelligent individual. One cannot speak reason to these folks because if they had to admit the truth their funds would dry up and wither away, and in the end they accuse the right of the very thing they do.

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're aware that blacks commit the largest number of violent crimes, and I'm going to go back out on that limb and say the cops are probably aware of it, too. In 2017, according to the FBI, whites/Hispanics committed 4,188 murders and blacks committed 5,025. Twelve percent of the population committed more murders than all the whites and hispanics combined. And if you glance at this table you'll see that 12 percent of the population commits far more than 12 percent of the crimes. I'm also going to guess that blacks murder cops at a far greater number than any other group and I'm basing it on the fact that blacks commit more murders than any other group.

At the rate 12% of the population commits crimes, is it any wonder that their reputation is in the dirt? Do you think the cops look at priests, and it doesn't matter what color they are, the same way they look at the people who commit more murders and other violent crimes than anyone else?

Let's put your racial profiling accusation to the test: It's 2AM, you're walking on the street and have have to decide if you want to go left or right. To the left are 10 cops, to the right are 10 blacks. Which way is safest, which way would you go?

 

Yes! Well said. Are we going to just sit there and point fingers at the relatively few individuals who engage in violence? Or are we going to redress the grievances like the constitution says?

 

No,....left wing terrorist demands are never justified

 

Those few individuals are the ones who are doing major damage. They are killing more people than the police. But I guess, because they are only a small minority, it is OK to just go ahead and destroy a city and kill a few more blacks.

 

So if it were up to you, this country would still be paying taxes to the King of England without a representative in the House of Commons.

That's where you needed to start before even thinking of participating in this discussion.

No rush. We'll be here waiting. So take your time and study well...

 

Let me explain it to him. The democrats want to reduce the funding to the police, get better policeman and train them better. Did I get it right?

Part of that training is teaching them that if a person resists arrest, that is a free get out of jail card.

 

Oh.... I see. So you were claiming the contrary? It certainly sounded like you were claiming that BLM was a "marxist" organization. So I guess the contrary is that they are not marxists?

In that case, I have nothing to object....

As the OP states, that's the wrong question. They have no interest in focusing on that question. As I said, the question they want to focus on is are they right? Is what they demand fair?

 

What the hell are you talking about? What nonsense is in your head this time?

Don't bother. I understand perfectly. Just some other strawman to avoid addressing the main point as explained on the OP. It's obvious that the question is so embarrassing to so many extremists on the right that they will use any way they can think of to avoid admitting that what the protests are meant to demand is fair.

 

The main difference between the tea party and black life matters is that most of the tea party protesters were idiots who didn't understand that Medicare is a tax paid socialist program

 

You said you wanted non-whites to have same rights with whites.
Judging from your responses, you want the government to act on your wishes. I’m trying to figure out what laws you propose that are not already on the books to make sure everyone has equal rights.
Please answer the question.

 

Good! You just started realizing that the fake narrative you hear on your right wingnut radio doesn't make any sense.

 

How many unarmed black people were killed by cops last year?

 

That and they didn't go around killing people....did you see the BLM rioters outside of the WH last night attacking Sen Paul? They were yelling Breonna Taylor.....not realizing he was the Senator that wrote a bill named after her and outlaws No Knock Warrants......sad.....these leftist terrrorist don't even realize what they are being terrrorist for

 

Are blacks trying to break away and start their own country? And didn’t the bash the Tea Party?