Whether BLM protests are violent or not is NOT the question

You do know that that's just a hashtag on twitter, right? It was never intended to be either a PR move or even a movement. But it turned out to be an excellent PR tool given that it caught on.

Again: I'm not sure it was planned, but that particular fact turned out to be a gold mine. They had white supremacists like Trump, who refused to acknowledge what the phrase meant, promoting the hell out of them. They could not have asked for anything better if they had planned it. And if they did, it was genius.

And, if you read the OP, by now you understand that that's the purpose of BLM. Not to organize the protests... the protests will happen no matter what. But to keep them as non-violent as is humanly possible for as long as is humanly possible.

You would appear to be trying to convince me that non-violent protests are preferable. Did you read the OP?

If that's not what you were trying to do, then fine. Sure they are better. But, as I said, protests will turn violent when the demand is just, and no other choice is available.

 

“It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out.”
― Carl Sagan

 

What gave you the idea that I have even the slightest notion of what city you live in?

 

Who's stopping them? It's not me.

 

As an engineer, I did a lot of failure analysis. Basically we would take apart and examine the failed product. One of the rules was that the determined cause of the failure, had to account for everything or at least not be a contradiction. For example, if there was a part which ended up in a location which was not compatible with the proposed cause of the failure, then the failure analysis was not accepted. When have claims of science and there is evidence which contradicts that claim, then somehow that evidence needs to be accounted for, Ignoring it or discounting it is contrary to good science.

 

If the majority of black parents could just find it in their culture for parents to teach them to not resist arrest.....end of the problem. One step further, stop committing the crimes that cause the arrest. If Blakes Daddy would stop calling his son a "baby" and respect him as a man he might teach him that rape is wrong and if you are going to do it....when caught dont' RESIST ARREST!!!! That sure would save a lot of death and rioting!!

 

Apparently not 2 shhotongs do far one shooter may have been shot at the other was on the verge of being assaulted, by the way I guarantee you that a good double handed swing with a skate board could leave your brain exposed to the air a generally fatal condition.

 

Without a shadow of a doubt, and the sociopathic Democrat Elite knew, and didn't care, or more likely, knew and sought the catastrophe; the bogus racial claims are a fig leaf.

That you find sociopathic behavior hilarious speaks for itself.

 

Once they became violent, they lost support. And if you think these violent protests will be tolerated.... you have a lot to learn.

 

I didn't ask a question. I made a statement of logic. Feel free to try to identify where my logic is flawed...

Their demands are all over the place. I fully support the desire to replace LE with armed citizen patrols in their local communities. That is just militia and is what communities of all classes and ethnicities should have nationwide. I fully oppose the demand that gentrificationers 'give' back property in historically black neighborhoods. If BLM or those communities work with the banks that handled the foreclosures and mortgages to make deals to put those properties back into black ownership in a manner that all involved parties voluntarily agree to, that I would support. I've yet to see any indication thats what they intend...

 

BLM is mostly white kids. They are clueless.

 

First off. NOT voting for Trump for the upteenth time. Just invested in facts. And FACTS state there is no systemic racism. Blacks are MORE likely to be killed by a black citizen than a WHITE cop. The odds of being killed by a cop is statistically null. Blacks have the same rights as everyone else. They have the same opportunities by class. Poor white people are just as disadvantaged as poor blacks. Even more so because there are ZERO programs or organizations that specifically help them. Black people have a boost no matter what class they belong to. White people with few resources have no one to help them. A poor black kid in the inner city has more tools at their disposal and more people that want to help them than a poor white kid in Appalachia. Deal in FACTS, not emotion. These are not talking points. It’s reality.

And BLM is loaded with plenty of delusional self loathing ignorant white people. They are no longer fighting for anyone’s rights. They’re anarchists. And any organization that supports destruction of the nuclear family is dangerous for mankind.

 

Skateboards are just toys. Wood capable of supporting 100s of pounds and steel can’t possibly hurt anyone when swung at high velocity. It was just a game. Just playing. Dead skateboard dude was just saying hello. Logic and reality fall on deaf brains with some people.

 

Please quote the part of any of my posts that gave you the idea that I believed the problem existed in Oakland.

If you don't do that you will have proven my point that you favor pseudo-scientific cherry picking. Though you also have the option to retract the statement. As I have said many times before, we all make mistakes. All is good so long as we retract them the moment they are pointed out to us. This is that point for you.

 

A man with a violent history disobeys a restraining order. He has a history of violence with guns and knives. His estranged wife calls 911. The police arrive. He resists arrest. He fights with the cops. He is Tazed twice. He reaches in his car. Law enforcement does not know what he will have in his hand after he gets what he wants in that car.

This all occurred in a democratic city with a democratic mayor and somehow it is Trump's fault. That is absurd.

 

Engineering is not science. But that's a different discussion. You have presented no evidence whatsoever that contradicts the claim.

However I'll just say that, in science, it is possible and acceptable that a single study contradicts established science. There was one peer-reviewed study that concluded that Uri Geller had psychic powers. And hundreds that proved that psychic powers don't exist. Science requires repetition. The burden to explain why one study contradicts the bulk of science lies on nobody other than the authors of that single study.

But, again... you have provided no study whatsoever. So the point is moot.

 

I would disagree that engineering is not a science. However, the concept is the same. If the theory does not agree with all the observed data, there is a problem with the theory. Doubters point out those inconsistencies.

 

That has been tried. Doesn't work (see George Floyd, Manuel Ellis, and others as example). So plan B is to stop police from disproportionately stopping, searching, arresting, shooting and killing black people. Which they should not do anyway, don't you think? So Plan B should actually be Plan A

 

Dude. You made the mistake. Correct it. You picked the study to support your premise. I had nothing to do with it. If you didn’t want to disprove profiling in Oakland you shouldn’t have posted the link. The researchers in your link picked Oakland because it’s a place “people like you” think profilings happens. They debunked that myth. Sucks for you but it’s not my problem. You picked the methodology and Oakland as the subject—not me. I’m just pointing out your mistakes as usual. If you don’t like it, don’t post nonsense.

 

Politics.

 

You don't understand that England was another country and we had declared independence from it? We must add. history to your studies.

"process crimes" unrelated to what I said in the first place.

 

I don't think intolerance will work. Name a single moment in history when people demanding (whether violently or not) a fair grievance be redressed has been suppressed. Other than in a totalitarian regime, of course. And even in those, usually never fully.

 

If you read the OP you would know that the word "question" is used as in the following definition
question
noun
ques·tion | \ ˈkwes-chən , ˈkwesh- \
Definition of question
...
b: a subject or aspect in dispute or open for discussion

There is only one demand. The rest are just possible ways to implement that one demand. And those depend on the particular situation in each local community and, therefore, there could be as many approaches as there are local communities in the country with this problem.

 

OP proves differently.

... and therefore... what? Can't you even finish the sentence?

Let me guess. Is it "... and therefore we don't need to address the problem"? or is it "... and therefore the problem doesn't exist"?

And I'm supposed to take that as a serious argument, right? I'll try... but it's not easy to act as if that nonsense made any ... sense.

You could have said that they are more likely to have been killed in a car accident. Same effect, with a less racist undertone. But then the second phrase implies that, to be consistent, you would hold that airplane accidents don't " need to be addressed" or "are not a problem" because the chances of you dying in one are "statistically null."

So next time you might want to express your thought in complete sentences. But before that you need to have your thoughts clear in your head. Which you obviously don't. As shown by the rest of your post which is just completely detached from reality, but completely off-topic here.

 

If he's white, three cops jump on him, subdue him and cuff him. If he's black, you shoot him in the back and leave him paralyzed for life.