Which president was/is the most dishonest?

Pretty much my attitude as well, but I retain an optimistic spark. While holding my passport close and researching the best country to flee to, that is.

 

Then of course you are no supporter of Hillary since on the same basis she lied.

 

Nah, I don't like Hillary either (although she's still exponentially above any Bush, or Romney, or an other 'thing' the right wing offers up).

 

Well, you are probably right. I realize that liberals are destroying this country, and I have no problem calling it like I see it.

 

And as you would never vote for Bush because of the war we can assume you will never vote for her especially being what the left says is a war criminal like Bush. Bush said we would go back to the UN for a resolution, she said we didn't have to and should the UN not vote a resolution to remove Saddam do it away, so of course you could never vote for her for President since she believes we do not need UN approval to go to war.

 

Try and hide the fact that Bush was an awful president, any way you need to, to make you feel good. Changes nothing. The GOP offering was poor, inept, and no better than Obama. (I know that hurts but, facts are facts).

 

Seems to me I remember something about a "mushroom cloud". That lie got over 4000 Americans killed, and 34,000 injured.

Not to mention losing an experienced CIA agent who would have been useful on this Iran nuclear deal.

I know! I know! That was technically the VICE President. The one who nominated himself.

But in that administration, Cheny called the shots, so that qualifies him for this contest.

 

Bush didn't lie. He was given bad intel.
Obama however lies knowingly

 

Oh I agree. Bush and Obama are two of the same. Obushma

 

Fair enough. So, you agree the right has no better alternative then, correct?

 

Are you talking about candidates? I'm not thrilled about any they are putting up right now. Jindal might have a chance. He did show well after a state if the union address a few years back. But yes not many up front runners I care about right now

 

Again, a fair enough assessment.

So, why would you say that the right whines so much about Obama, when they have nothing better to offer? Doesn't that seem a bit disingenuous?

 

Recent Times I'll go with Clinton.

 

Cause he is the one making the laws and the lies at the current time that is affecting me and my family right now.

 

He has done nothing to help me or my family. He has only helped the rich so far. I have seen nothing but my taxes increase twice. I have seen my medical increase. Don't get me started in my deductible.
I'm a small business owner and he has done nothing to help me there either. He has only hurt my company with more taxes and regulations. Screw him. His word is nothing to me. He lied and continue to lie. I ask anyone here to please tell me for all his talk what has he done to help the poor and the middle class?
He let crooked bankers off with nothing more then a slap on the hand. Fined them less then a day of profits. Wow but my taxes go up!!

What has he done about crooked Wall Street? Nothing. Fines that count for less than an hour of profits. Wow but my taxes go up.
Screw him. And his party.
He is a do nothing prez unless you are Monsanto or GM or GE or Health Insurance Corps. or Apple or Facebook or Fisker or solyndra or Haliburton or Hollywood or some damn admitted attempted murder rapper. Screw him. What has he done for us? Really? What?
Spied on us!
Call us terrorist!
Lie to us over and over.
Sick the IRS on us!
Please tell
Me what has he done to help the middle class and the poor! I would say less than any recent prez. He has given the middle class and poor the middle finger. That's all.

 

Invent a time machine, and take the internet with you... and fact-checkers.

 

Oh oaky. I gotcha. You only care about you, right here, right now. No matter what your side has done in the past..got it.

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Why can't one of your guys get in there and fix everything up for you?

 

Yep. I can't change the past. Can only worry about today and the future. How will I pay my bills. Feed my kids. Etc. it's not easy with Obama declaring war on the poor and middle class.

 

Well, if it's any consequence, it sucked for me and my family too, when Bush was busy catering the super wealthy (or, his base, as he called them), and shat on people like me and my family so..I guess we should all just only worry about ourselves, at the time it's happening, and to hell with the other guy.

 

Because we don't offer enough free handouts. When the nation has over 50% of the people on some kinda of handout. We don't offer free green cards for votes. We have a path to citizenship. The left is willing to do anything for votes.

I don't see many on the left fighting for the middle class. Attacking large corps. and banks and Wall Street. Hell Obama had snipers out at occupy. These kids were just trying to shed light on the problems of Wall Street, banks dividend schemes, unfair college loans, etc.
the only true hearted people I see on the left will never get your parties bid cause they aren't paid for by big corps. Al Franken and Elizabeth Warren. You would prefer some like Hillary who is bought and paid for by big corp.

 

When I'm struggling to maintain my family there is little time to worry about others. When I flourish so does others around me. However Obama's war on the middle class has beaten me down.

 

I don't see Obama worrying about me or the middle class.
I don't see the poor worrying about the middle class. They vote every time time to raise my property taxes
I would love to see Obama stop lying and stop pandering to the rich. But he won't.
I don't see congress giving a sh!t either.
The system is screwed. Left or right or tea party. It's broken the whole thing.

 

Your side seems to get big handouts fairly often, don't they? Oil subsidies, for one. Tax breaks for the rich, is another popular one. Seriously, who do you think poor people are going to vote for? Rich, well to do, Republicans who tout 'big business' or simply praise the richest of the rich on a daily basis? Why would they, or should they? Get a grip?

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Bush's celebration of all persons rich, did me in pretty good, too.

 

I completely agree with the last statement. I just get tired of hearing the right wing whine about how bad Obama is, when they are themselves, no better (and far worse, in my opinion).

 

That's my point. You are always talking about the rep. are for big corps yet you fail to notice that the left has been bought and sold also by big corp.