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Even if making it illegal means more people get it?

And how do we decide which infections we must disclose? Why just HIV and now maybe Covid?

 

it should always be illegal, we don't make rape legal cause more might be killed because of it

if you know you have covid and spread it on purpose, yes, that should be a crime too

can you imagine if a dem had covid and went to all the Republican events or visa versa? what if someone had covid and went around the SC, Congress, you name it - would you be ok with that?

what if a hot woman wanted to spread HIV and started having sex with every man she met, how many men should she be allowed to infect before you see it as a problem

 

As you correctly said... it's a "hard sell"... because a good percent of the population [including those in medical professions] don't trust the vaccines.

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I prefer to base my opinions on empirical evidence, not emotion or hypotheticals. Can you present evidence or even a logic based theory demonstrating legalization of rape will save lives? Can you present evidence the war on drugs has been a net benefit to society? Law not based on measurable results is essentially just virtue signaling.

Should it? What about influenza? What about non infectious diseases that people spread intentionally? Like heart disease. Shoot, we can advertise products that we know kill people by ruining their heart. Where’s the line?

I can imagine a lot of hypothetical scenarios I’m not OK with. But until they are demonstrated to be a problem and the law proposed is demonstrated to be in some way effective I don’t think we need a law. If someone is attempting murder just charge them with attempted murder. It’s not like we don’t already have laws for that.

When have I inferred such a thing wouldn’t be a problem? I think it’s a huge problem that every man who meets a hottie would hit it with no thought to the consequences. Again, if the hot woman seduced a husband of another woman who subsequently committed suicide because of betrayal, would you prosecute the hot woman for murder or manslaughter? If not, why not?

At some point I think we have to admit such laws are an attempt to preserve the ability of humans to copulate like animals but avoid some of the consequences of animal behavior. It seems clever, but it’s only fooling those who haven’t evolved beyond such base instincts. The sad part is the most harmful results of the behavior aren’t even recognized so no attempts are made to mitigate them at all.

 

if people think they will get caught and punished harsher, they are more likely to kill the victim....

but we should not make the punishment less because of that

 

So the law didn’t prevent the rape, and it made unintended consequences that are even worse. My point precisely!

I know, I know! If we made the “after rape” killing illegal then...oh, wait, it is!

 

Are you saying that someone should tell the other person they have a disease before they have sex with them? The "goal" is to have sex. Most people aren't going to say something that lessens that possibility.

Yes, it would be the right thing to do but most people don't decisions based on what's fair and right for the other person.

The bigger question is "why would you trust having sex with someone you don't know well enough to know their medical issues and/or social habits that might provide a clue to their medical issues?"

 

if one has a disease that will kill them, yes, they should be legally required to disclose they have a disease before sex

 

Making rape illegal may not prevent all rapes, but it should still be illegal

are we really having this conversation....

 

Yes we are. Because instead of answering why seductresses shouldn’t be liable for health issues they cause outside of STD’s you wanted to talk about rape.

Yes we are, because you can’t answer why spreading Covid should be illegal but spreading influenza and heart disease shouldn’t be.

Yes we are because STD’s and Covid seem to be the only health problems you don’t want spread around without consequences under law. When I try and determine why only those two matter you introduced rape to avoid addressing why we should treat diseases differently under the law.

 

Respiratory diseases as well or just STD’s? Why is dying of an STD different than having an influenza induced myocardial infarction?

 

Uncurable STD's like HIV, should always be disclosed before having sex

 

Are fatal heart attacks curable? Is influenza curable? The death rate for HIV is about 1.3 per 100,000. The death rate for influenza in people aged 18-49 is 1.8 per 100,000. For people aged 50-64 it’s 9 per 100,000. For those over 65 it’s 48 per 100,000.

Influenza is much more contagious than HIV.

Why specifically should we criminalize HIV disclosure but not influenza disclosure when HIV is much less of a threat to life?

 

if someone has a bad check flu, you see it

 

I have a profile on a dating site. I specify that I will not be taking the covid vaccine. I see no reason not to broadcast the opposite. I consider it valuable and pertinent information.

 

Good for you. I've always been a proponent on people taking an active role in their decision-making. I'm sure you will meet somebody that shares your views on not getting the vaccine.

 

Influenza is spread asymptomatically and presymptomatically just like Covid and other respiratory viruses.

Symptomatic AIDS is pretty easy to spot as well.

 

not the same as HIV

 

Agreed. Much more risk from influenza. Thus my question why you want to criminalize the less dangerous disease.

 

not the same

 

Agreed. Empirical evidence shows influenza is more prevalent, has a higher mortality rate, and is more communicable. Yet emotion drives you to prefer criminalization of a disease far less of a threat to sexual partners than influenza.

I have to go with empirical evidence over emotion. Just the way I am...

 

One night stands wouldn’t exist if people needed to know the person first, which would mean a lot less unwanted babies and a lot less STDs.

 

Yes, that's the point. I don't know why one night stands or dating sites for married people exist but know they do.

 

That's . . . actually one of the better initiatives I've seen. Bravo.

 

Frankly, until COVID, I mostly saw anti-vaxx stuff on the left. Post-COVID, I mostly see it on the right. Seems like the anti-science mob occurs on both horns on the horseshoe.