Who Gets Abortions in America?

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  1. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    That's a moronic statement on your part.
     
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    You realize married women also get abortions, right?
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Don't have sex.

    And your question is irrelevant. Killing a human with human hands is still killing a human with human hands. You can't regulate nature. But you can regulate human from killing other humans. Hence, murder laws.
     
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    Nope, its not. When slavery was around the argument was the same. Blacks were not human. Your use of the word "fertilized egg" rather than what it is, a human, shows that you do not view it as human. You've got the same argument. Even if the ones that you're targeting is different.
     
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    Who cares if they're married? What's that got to do with the price of tea in china? If you don't want to get pregnant, and know that there is a chance of becoming pregnant...then don't have sex. Its as simple as that.
     
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    You CAN reduce the chances of miscarriage with better pre-natal care, better environmental factors, less stress - but that costs money, and
    conservatives freak out about that.
     
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    I’ve knocked women up with my legs closed
     
  8. Daniel Light

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    It's moronic because NORMAL people have a sex drive - and married people often have that same sex drive, pretending that's
    not the reality of life is moronic.
     
  9. Kal'Stang

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    Reducing the chances is not the same as killing. We can all reduce the chance of dying in a car wreck. But just because we can reduce the chances of dying in a car wreck doesn't mean that we shouldn't outlaw someone taking a car and ramming it into a group of people.
     
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    Assuming you're being literal...and unless those women wanted the pregnancy... then too bad their legs weren't closed. Otherwise you would not have knocked them up. 100% guaranteed.
     
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    And its NORMAL and even instinctive for people to get pissed and kill people. Does that mean that we shouldn't outlaw it? Of course not. Just because certain types of human behavior are "normal" does not mean that it shouldn't be outlawed or ruled as allowable. Lots of laws interfere in a persons natural instinct. God forbid that we, as a society, expect people to reign in those natural instincts.
     
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    So, in your analogy, a woman is going to have to prove that her miscarriage (car wreck) was accidental and not on purpose ... only way to
    do that is an invasive pelvic exam. So the same people who freaked out about having to wear aa mask because it infringed on the bodily
    autonomy are going to FORCE women to go through invasive pelvic exams to prove they didn't purposely kill someone.

    I think it's nice that Republicans are making it easier for women to carry guns so they can deal with the first conservative who tries to
    force a pelvic exam ...
     
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    :rolleyes: No one is going to demand that women prove they had a miscarriage. Such a thing wasn't even around when abortion was illegal prior to RvW. Stop fearmongering.
     
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    Dude, you really are a neophyte when it comes to women - gynecology has been around since the mid 1800s ... and YOU think YOUR opinion
    should count on women's health issues ... gods what a cluster****.
     
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    Hmmmm - so what would be your exceptions to the right?
     
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    And how often have humans managed that? There are 7 billion people on this planet which rather suggests that abstinence is not terribly effective

    mind you we could also control by enforcing all males donate sperm and then castrating them - stop sex AND have pregnancy as very much a choice
     
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    Already happening that women inAmerica have been charged with murder when they have had a stillbirth or a miscarriage
     
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    Why is convenience not important? Is it “convenience” when a woman is faced with abortion of the family starving?
     
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    I know who gets abortions, only the unpenised women.
     
  20. Kal'Stang

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    Other than an attempt at an ad hom and discounting my voice....what does this have to do with your claim of Republicans going to want to force women to prove that their miscarriage was a miscarriage? Oh right. It doesn't. Just an emotional reaction to not being able to legitimately counter any of what I have said.
     
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    This is not an argument that proves anything. Most of the world is in 3rd world status. In fact out of damn near 200 different countries in the world, only 31 are considered 1st world countries.
     
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    The only times that has happened is when the woman was using narcotics. No one purposefully went out of the way to investigate whether a woman had a miscarriage just to enforce laws against abortion.

    Btw, just so you know.... a lie by omission is still a lie.
     
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    More than two and there is more evidence for caffeine causing miscarriage than Methamphetamine although if you can find definitive proof….. Plus what message does this send to young women who are addicts? Don’t go to a hospital or seek any medical care during your pregnancy x that is the message it sends
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/03/california-stillborn-prosecution-roe-v-wade
     
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    Nah you can knock up a woman with her legs closed….you need more imagination
     
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