Who is indoctrination children

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  1. Sirius Black

    Sirius Black Well-Known Member

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    Studies Weekly’s existing lesson on Parks currently being taught to some Florida first graders states “The law said African Americans had to give up their seats on the bus if a white person wanted to sit down.” But the version recently submitted for Florida reviewers said “She was told to move to a different seat because of the color of her skin” – then updated a final time to say only “She was told to move to a different seat.”

    Florida is one of about a dozen states that approve academic texts above the district level.

    https://news.yahoo.com/rosa-parks-race-scrubbed-public-052012819.html

    Why would any textbook identify Rosa Parks without some reference to race. Florida is apparently trying to rewrite history.
     
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    It would be a sad sad joke, if it weren't for the fact that it's reality, here in Florida.

    So much for the party of small government
     
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    Equally as insidious, part of the culture of Trumpery is to be made to feel aggrieved because you are white. You know......because of all the injustices whites suffer at the hands of blacks. ;)
     
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    You can't beg, cry and whine for equality and then expect SPECIAL TREATMENT. That is not how EQUALITY works. Screw this EQUITY crap. EQUALITY is where its at! You should go look it up, you might learn something!
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    How many times do we need to explain that "equality" doesn't mean "equal treatment". It means "equal opportunity"
     
  6. Sirius Black

    Sirius Black Well-Known Member

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    What has this to do with altering the truth in what one tells children.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How many times do we need to explain that a definition of a word is not whatever your FEELINGS want it to be at the time
     
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    I guess i didn't word it that great.
    What I mean is that if they want everything to be EQUAL then no making a big production over people's races.
    I know thats impossible for the left to do though. That's what drives them!
     
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    Yes be cause you can't have equal opportunity without equal treatment. Equity is one of those meaningless words that's used because leftists need almost endless elasticity in order to try to justify horrible ideas.
     
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    'The publisher said it was “trying to follow Florida’s standards, including the Stop W.O.K.E. Act,” the Times reported.'

    The publisher and/or the Times are liars, which is no surprise, nothing in FL law requires concealing the color of Rosa Parks skin.

    FL should reject this publisher for this dirty trick to secure a headline that slanders the Free People of FL
     
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    Unsure why one would even talk about Rosa Parks if not allowed to discuss race though. I mean, "she was told to move to a different seat," there's no way somebody could stop there.
     
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    My understanding of the law is an educator cannot assert that somebody is still oppressed by racism. I don't see why they couldn't say racism has occurred in the past and then, as republicans want, pretend that we fully got past it and it's over now.
     
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    Democrats don't demand equality of outcomes, only equality of opportunity. It's not the same. Republicans mischaracterize what democrats want.
     
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    Delete
     
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    Leftist use inequality in outcomes as evidence of inequality of opportunity.
     
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    There is nothing wrong with indoctrination of children. Society would not be able to function if we weren't all indoctrinated on some level.

    We wear clothes because we are indoctrinated to believe that going around naked is embarrassing.
     
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    Didn't have to go very far to find out what REALLY happened...

    "The Florida Department of Education told the paper that Studies Weekly had “overreached,” adding that any book that “avoids the topic of race when teaching the Civil Rights movement, slavery, segregation, etc. would not be adhering to Florida law,” "

    ...glad we got that nothingburger out of the way.
     
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    That's more reasonable. When black Americans have worse outcomes, democrats will assume some form of racism, and republicans will assume some cultural issue. It could be both though. And I think many don't know what equality of opportunity is. One really cannot have it without universal healthcare and equal and/or entirely merit-based educational opportunities starting with young children. On the other hand, nothing is really going to fully overcome having rich and/or attentive parents.
     
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    If someone actually is, of course they can.
    Florida law REQUIRES students be taught about actual historic racism. It's right on the FL Department of Education website. Al Gore invented the internet so that you could check things yourself.

    I'm not convinced that even you believe your false claims, given how easy it is for you to double check them. I've noticed that nearly no one on the Left ever gets angry with the liars that mislead them, which is leading me to question whether they were ever misled at all.
     
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    I think the unsanitary aspect of naked butts on public seats is more compelling. Feel free to free the nipple, though.
     
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    Not to mention dangerous in bad weather and unsafe in many working conditions.
     
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    I'll speak more directly. The law does not outlaw teaching historic racism. It does outlaw asserting current status as oppressed based upon race. I've quoted the law multiple times. Here it is again. Pay particular attention to what I bolded:

    https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/148/BillText/Filed/HTML

    "
    36 Be It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Florida:
    37
    38 Section 1. Present subsections (8, (9), and (10) of
    39 section 760.10, Florida Statutes, are redesignated as
    40 subsections (9), (10), and (11), respectively, and a new
    41 subsection (8 and subsection (12) are added to that section, to
    42 read:
    43 760.10 Unlawful employment practices.—
    44 (8(a)Subjecting any individual, as a condition of
    45 employment, membership, certification, licensing, credentialing,
    46 or passing an examination, to training, instruction, or any
    47 other required activity that espouses, promotes, advances,
    48 inculcates, or compels such individual to believe any of the
    49 following concepts constitutes discrimination based on race,
    50 color, sex, or national origin under this section:
    51 1.Members of one race, color, sex, or national origin are
    52 morally superior to members of another race, color, sex, or
    53 national origin.
    54 2.An individual, by virtue of his or her race, color, sex,
    55 or national origin, is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive,
    56 whether consciously or unconsciously.
    57 3.An individual’s moral character or status as either
    58 privileged or oppressed is necessarily determined by his or her
    59 race, color, sex, or national origin.

    "
     
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    Just tell the truth.
    No ****, Sherlock, your claim that it did, is fake news.
    Again, no ****. You actually have to oppress someone to be called an oppressor. Which is a perfectly proper stance. Those that demean children simply because of their skin color should not even be teachers.

    You made false claims, you got called, that's perfectly proper in a debate format such as this.
     
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    I DID NOT claim that it did. Here it is again:

    Perhaps you're confused by the double negative and failed to read it correctly. Though sure, I should have written it better.

    You do not understand my claims, which are not what you just represented, nor do you seem to have actually read the part of the law I bolded.
     
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    What BS. Democrats use inequality of outcome as all the proof they need for unequal opportunity, therefore exposing their desire for equal outcomes as their end all be all by definition.

    logic. Use some
     
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