Who Should I Vote For? Convince Me. (Rep. vs. Dem.)

There is another one yay! Typical republican

 

Short answer. It doesn't matter. In the end most all do the same. And congress has more control than the prez.

 

The reason real estate was bad is because workers were being layed off and couldn't pay their mortgages. The reason workers were laid off is because Bush cut taxes on outsourcing making it a bad business decision to manufacture things in the USA. I see republicans always chasing their tail...just opinion

 

Well being as that your a parent you will have more say in how your child is raised as opposed to the democrats that are pushing things like how healthy your children should be or whether you have the right to punish them and to what degree. Basically republicans want to let you do what you think is best, kind of a hands off approach meaning that if you screw up your life they won't be there to bail you out.

Democrats on the other hand believe that government should have more say in your daily life including how your children should be raised, what the schools should teach them and so on. However if you screw up your life they will be there to bail you out.

I for one consider myself a responsible adult and don't feel the need for the government to tell me what to do and when to do it. If I fail than that's my fault and I can live with it. Others don't have that much confidence I guess and like to know the government will save them if they need it.

 

Again, very wrong. I simply want a republican to tell me why I should vote republican. Because all I hear from them is a lot of "you're stupid" statements. It's hard being new to politics and trying to figure out exactly what the republicans are up to when they have no plan, just disrespect.

 

Real Estate went bad because Barney Frank and company set policies that let people attain mortgages far outside of their price range. When there was a problem there was no way they could stay afloat.

 

I agree we need a balance to make sure spending doesn't get out of control, but that is what Bush voters thought too. They thought Bush would make taxes cheaper. But republicans now days seem to be so attatched to special interest groups that they want to make changes like Bush did that lead American into a depression so the rich can get richer. Look at government spending while Bush was president.

 

I understand that the system is broke, but not voting or trashing a vote will not fix anything.

 

Thats BS it was long before Barney Frank

 

Vote for neither party. Write your name in for President. You may not know the first thing about running this country, but your most likely more honest then the current cast of clowns running for office. You could possibly win if enough people hear your message.

 

GREAT response, I learned a lot! This is what I was looking for, thanks. You changed my mind on some things. I agree on nearly everything you say. But doesn't the president have 100% control of the military? He said he does and would bring the troops home from all the countries we are in. I agree with this because we could save money by paying them to protect us at home instead of paying more for them to be in other countries. Maybe I am wrong. I am interested in your WW1 statement.

 

I am a responsible parent as well. But I defidently notice that a large majority of parents don't have a clue how to parent their children correctly. Kids should eat right and they are not, which is a parental flaw.

I haven't heard of any plans to keep parents from certain types of punishment, but it couldn't be such a bad thing. To tell you the truth, kids attitudes get worse when they are spanked. The best dicipline for a child is positive reinforcement when they are good, not negative actions when they are bad!

Louis CK on hitting your kids

“I really think it’s crazy that we hit our kids. Here’s the crazy part about it; kids are the only people in the world that you’re allowed to hit. Do you realize that? They’re the most vulnerable and the most desroyed by being hit but it’s totally OK to hit them. And they’re the only ones! if you hit a dog they will put you in jail for that s---. You can’t hit a person unless you can prove that they were trying to kill you. But a little tiny person with a head this big who trusts you implicitly:

‘---K ‘EM, WHO GIVES A S---! LET’S ALL HIT THEM!’

 

My statement was kind of dumb, you are right. It is mostly because of people who weren't informed on fixed rate loans. But some of those people did lose their jobs, as I said.

 

First you need to get informed - and dare I say some "deprogramming" is definitely in order.

It's been many decades since the principles of freedom and citizenship have been taught in the government school systems. The evidence for this is on the evening news every night - our impending bankruptcy; the debauching of our currency; unconstitutional and excessive regulation and bureacracy; senseless, needless, never ending, and often times illegal wars; increased federal involvement in policing - and worse, military involvement in policing; routine violations of civil liberties; warrantless searches; property seizure; on and on...

America was founded upon the principle of limited government. The Constitution was designed to empower the Federal Government to perform specific, "enumerated" functions. All other powers and duties of governance were to be performed by the states and the people themselves.

Pure and simple, the FedGov is supposed to be severely restricted by the Constitution, and "we the people" left free to live our lives as we see fit. What makes us free, was that the government itself is supposed to be prevented by the rule of law from imposing the will of an oligarchy, or a monarch, or the will of the majority upon any other citizen.

These things are no longer taught in the government school systems, however. What is taught is "democracy"... and that the Constitution is a "living document", i.e. positive government. Once any society embarks upon the path of positive government, it is only a matter of time before that society collapses under the weight of its own corruption. Sound familiar??

Which brings us to where we are now as a society, and to you. The Republicans and Democrats form 2 wings of one Big Government Party. There are an awful lot of perks to be enjoyed while being first in line at the government trough.

The leadership of both parties are committed to maintaining the system as it now functions. They share power, steal for their friends, buy votes with freshly printed money (aint inflation grand??), protect the monied interests that sit above them in the Establishment power structure, and steal from posterity to pay for it all... afterall, posterity can't vote; and today's citizens are too ignorant to understand what is being done to their society, their currency, their future, their freedom.

Your 2 year old daughter is already $49,000 in debt; if she ever becomes a taxpayer?? her share is $135,000!!! That is unconscionable, but it's only made possible by ignorant citizens voting for a criminal political class that cares nothing about freedom, or posterity; but instead answer to the monied interests that sit above them.

Do yourself a favor, and find the time to do some reading. The Federalist Papers, Hayak's "Road to Serfdom", and Griffen's "Creature From Jekyl Island" would be a good start.

Until you get yourself informed, I would suggest that you not vote at all. Think of your daughter - if you have no idea what you're voting for, it's at least as likely that you're doing her harm - even if unwittingly; and, no offense, but based on your OP, I can assure you, you are, in fact, doing harm. No truly informed citizen would ever consider voting for Barack Obama; but such is the state of the American electorate.

Here's a link to the debt clock... you're daughter has a steep climb ahead of her.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Good luck to you.

 

That's what I'm saying. Go vote and don't vote to continue the two party system, instead vote for who you believe in.

 

Well you sound like you will fit in just fine with the liberals. Guess your choice is already made.

 

And where is your fix lol. I realize that both sides have evils but you have to vote on the lesser of two evils. You talk like you are backing Ron Paul but you aren't telling me who you are backing or what they plan to do to fix the problem! Just calling me uninformed doesn't change my vote... I know we should have less government spending, its obvious...it doesn't take a book to figure that out...

Look at the options;

Obama=probably going to spend more, but there is a possibility with cooperation he can improve the country.

Republicans=Would be like voting for Bush again. Sure they would cut government spending. But you also vote for someone who wants to spend more on wars and weapons. Who also wants to cut taxes on outsourcing which kills American jobs. Who wants to leave tax loopholes so the rich can get away with not paying taxes and be unaccountable.

Or Ron Paul= Wants no government. This would, even according to him, cause riots in the streets. His idea's are great, but instead of talking about what he can do, he talks about the end result in his ideas. He can't just end government if he becomes president. Also, you have to make sure that Ron Paul is a heavy threat in the races. If there aren't enough people in his movement, like previous years, then voting for him when you know you will be a small % is a wasted vote. If you know he isn't going to win, don't waste the vote, make an informed decision on who the lesser of two evils will be.

Next time talk about what can be done...don't just insult me

 

I understand the pride in that...but if you know the candidate has no chance of winning then it is a wasted vote. I do see your point that the future generations may catch on if a third party starts getting closer and closer, I'll brain stew on that.

 

It's obvious a lot of you read the title of the thread but not the thread. I'll shorten it;

I am voting for Obama at this point because he has a plan. You are welcome to reinforce my current status with a Democratic argument. I don't hear a plan from the Republicans except for opening more trade that can hurt the employment in the country and ending Obamacare. I know Paul wants all the troops home. What will your choice candidate do to help the national debt? And I mean within the presidential powers. Talk me out of voting Obama because I really don't want to, but these candidates are CANS with no action plan.

 

Romney has his proposed budget on his website. Have you even bothered to research the other candidates or are you going to base your decision off of a political forum website.

 

It is very broad. Do you have a link where I can see the exact programs he is going to cut and what he is going to do to increase trade exactly? Nice stab at the end there, typical republican...

 

You won't find more than a broad plan at this point. The President takes that broad plan to his people in Congress who actually write the actual legislation which is then debated on in the Congress. Actual specifics, even if they were given, are likely to be changed once Congress writes the legislation.

 

Guess you didn't read the thread at all lol. You must be republican.

 

I've read the entire thread and have been active throughout it. I was the first to post a response actually so I don't see what being a republican has to do with anything. The OP's beliefs align perfectly with the liberal agenda so he should fit right in.

Nothing wrong with that statement.

 

Looks like I was correct, again. Have fun voting for Obama.