Who Should I Vote For? Convince Me. (Rep. vs. Dem.)

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  1. woodystylez

    woodystylez Banned

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    That concept alone is what had a lot of leverage for me to vote Obama. It is the most importañt change that needs to happen.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only time will tell. If he does. If he does, it's nice to see that he is finally waking up to see what Democrats have believed in isn't the way to go. Although he still seems determined to still push against coal fired power plants. That should come about after this economy gets back on track.
     
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    This is the key difference between the two parties: when their backs are against the wall the Democrats will at least give the American people some semblance of what they want.

    The republicans will always serve their evil masters faithfully no matter how bad it is for America or how total public opposition is.
     
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    The only problem I see is he isn't doing to benefit the country, just to benefit his reelection. even if it is a good plan, that bothers me deeply.
     
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    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean when Democrats finally get a touch of reality, they finally do what Republicans have been saying needs to be done from the start. It would seem like it takes them so long to wake up.

    Republicans are smart enough to know you don't kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. To bad it takes Liberals so long to realize that too.
     
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    What are you talking about? Republicans are still fighting against things like extending payroll tax cuts that benefit the people.
     
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    Explain how bush sent this country to the ground. Understanding the principles of candidates and parties as well as the truth in their actions is the first step to deciding to who to vote for! I just want to see your view as how you personally think bush sent the country in to the ground.
     
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    If a person needs to be told who to vote for, that person should not vote. The lemmings and sheep should not vote. goats and other obedient news propaganda followers should not vote.

    These are the kids of idiots who screw up the USA. They mess it up for everyone. But if the Masses are that stupid that they need to be told who to vote for, than they deserve to Ben Dover and take it up the political monkey. Because they deserve to get screwed over.
     
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    Bush cut the taxes on outsourcing. Not the NAFTA
     
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    I agree. The funniest thing about Republicans is that if you tell them to inform you about politics without bashing a president or its beliefs, you will hear dead silence. You may hear the occasional, "we need to cut taxes" but other than that it is all "Democrats want to take our guns and religion".

    I loved that Obama (in Nevada) talked about religion in general and how it wants you to help those in need, while the "christian president" was gambling.
     
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    They are also fighting to keep a war that isn't really a war going. And they are fighting to open more foreign trade.

    Bush all over again.

    Send jobs away. Spend more than democrats. Cut taxes and ignore the National Debt.
     
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    I hope you are kidding. If not, and it appears not, here it is and you should know this;

    Bush was on vacation ALWAYS, while his country was diving. First he cut taxes. One of the programs he cut was Anti-terrorism. Then 911 came around. The same extremeist group his dad helped train and arm attacked us. Bush cut taxes on overseas trade. Then Bush went to war in an unconstitutional manner. Listen to Ron Paul and his foreign policy. Everyone wondered why we attacked them, yet we just assumed our government was doing the "right thing". WMD's weren't there so he changed his attack program to "War on anti-terrorism". Yet it wasn't labeled a war and he was probably on vacation.

    Meanwhile the same companies who funded his campaign, the gas companies, came out with bigger profits than ever while the American gas prices were sky rocketing.

    Research charts on our spending. You will see that our war "that isn't a war" has cost us way more than the help here in the USA. :gun:
     
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    I'm pretty sure the people who screwed up this country were the ones who don't read. Hint hint.
     
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    Vote for a democrat or a republican. They are both the same.
     
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    So how is the fact that bush was on vacation, made a big debt, started a war, and higher gas prices the result of 10%+ unemployment and the economic collapse by the housing market.

    You are bringing up a lot of points, but you aren't connecting them to explain what caused the economic collapse which I assumed is what you meant when you said "bush drove this country into the ground.". If I misinterpreted what you meant then my apologies.
     
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    R's can say a lot of things. I didn't see any legislation from 00-06 to stop the bleeding of jobs or bring any back.
    Any one can say anything and not really mean it. Action, not words. As a marine you should understand that.
     
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    What IS the republican plan exactly? I thought they were "focused like a laser" on this? Do they even have one? Anything? Anyone? (and please don't say 'lower taxes on the wealthy' or 'get government out of the way'. It's so cliche', prehistoric and such a dismal failure). Anything new?
     
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    To me, the Republican Party is mostly status-quo bs. They talk a good game but their walk is embarassingly lame. However, even some wishy-washy, establishment oriented, quasi-plan may actually end up being superior to one which spends willy-nilly more than a trillion bucks over its revenues each year. Even a muddled philosophy that accomplishes little may end up being better in the long run than a consistent one that imagines that every problem can be cured by carpet bombing it with future generations' money, constructing bigger and better bureaucratic Rube Goldbergs, forcing "fairness" at the expense of justice, etc., while progressively turning the nation into a pathetic bunch of OWS-like robot losers and thumb-sucking nanny-state dependents.
     

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