WHO supports China opening up Wet markets

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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    People who defend the CCP are not defending China.

    Evidence of that the Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus is a biological weapon created by the CCP and its military:

    1. The Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus first appeared near a biological weapons lab in Wuhan.
    2. Chinese agents deliberately spread the virus around the world
    3. The CCP sent out ineffective testing kits and masks to cripple the response
    4. CCP state media has admitted that the Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus is a biological weapon.
     
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    Cite please.

    I cited to you where scientists are currently looking for where this virus first entered the human population from animals that have this virus.

    OUR early tests were seriously flawed and often didn't work at all.

    Suggesting that these failures are part of an organized response are NOT acceptable without there being significant proof.
     
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    Ok but then you also have to take into account the fact that Europe is more densely populated than large parts of America and it has more elderly due to a higher life expectancy in many nations.
    A direct comparison between New York and a European city of a similar size such as London or Paris is not so flattering.
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Oh dear!
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh look.....an Ad Hom attack!!! How delightful, and as we all know, a blatant ad hom is ALWAYS the tactic of a winning argument! Bless your little heart.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was very explicit that this topic has been discussed at length and that I am not going to keep hoeing the same ground over, and over and over. Please stop humping my leg.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure, and New York City is amongst the most densely populated of them all. New York City also accounts for nearly half of all United States deaths. So you want to hide behind population density when it makes Europes numbers higher, but you want to ignore populartion density when it applies to the New York. All you are doing is very carefully cherry picking only those tidbits that you can use to form the narrative that you want to tell. The entire purpose of mentioning an objective measure is to take cherry picking out of the equation. I am talking about a practical means of assessing effectiveness by looking at the Worldometer data and figuring out which column tells you the most information. That column is undeniably deaths per million residents. If you want to simply play the Orange Man Bad game, you will sit there and rationalize every single stat so that it reflects poorly on the United States and you will ignore any stat that contradicts your preconceived notion. From that perspective, I can see why you and many others are so anxious to get away from a practical objective means of assessing. The cherry picking game is obviously so much more fun.
     
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    You replied after saying you won't (post 88) but you just could not let it go. I deleted a previous post to you (post 89) because I believed you. Over 29000 dead and you think that the US is doing well. No one is forcing you to reply. Your statement has been demonstratively shown to be false, the US are doing as badly as those other 9 countries in that list
     
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    100% true.

    there is no difference between horses, dogs, cats, lamb, sheep, goats, pigs, whatever.

    they are all mammals with feelings
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The world is "doing badly". THAT is the point. To blame that state of affairs on the leader of one nation that is a victim like every other nation, is INSANE. TDS at its absolute finest. The reason that I have correctly pointed out that in comparison to the rest of the industrialized west that United States is doing well, was not to brag about how great we are doing. It was intended to stop the unmitigated nonsensical ranting that implies that these results seen around the globe and at home are somehow the fault of Trump.

    The right is not trying to blame this on one person unless of course that person is XI from China. Nobody is looking to blame the leaders of Italy or Spain etc. That is however the position by many on the left when it comes to Trump. I suspect you are among them, or else you would not be fighting so hard against the notion of looking at an objective measure to assess each nation's response. Cherry picking anything that you can use to kind of sort of imply that it is all Trumps fault is obviously so much more fun. Objectivity BE DAMNED!!!!
     
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    As I suspected, you are unable to rebut a single point.

    Evidence of that the Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus is a biological weapon created by the CCP and its military:

    1. The Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus first appeared near a biological weapons lab in Wuhan.
    2. Chinese agents deliberately spread the virus around the world
    3. The CCP sent out ineffective testing kits and masks to cripple the response
    4. CCP state media has admitted that the Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus is a biological weapon.
     
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    In fact, the evidence is overwhelming and you are clearly unable to challenge any of it .

    Evidence of that the Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus is a biological weapon created by the CCP and its military:

    1. The Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus first appeared near a biological weapons lab in Wuhan.
    2. Chinese agents deliberately spread the virus around the world
    3. The CCP sent out ineffective testing kits and masks to cripple the response
    4. CCP state media has admitted that the Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus is a biological weapon.
     
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    IOW, you are not able to challenge anything from my post.
    Read again, and skip the irrelevant unresponsive verbiage about "conspiracy theory".

    Fact: The CCP has allowed the wet markets to reopen.
    Conclusion: The CCP knows that the Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus Pandemic came from a CCP lab in Wuhan - not the wet markets.
     
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    No, I'm saying you made claims that you can't support. Your claims are on YOU to support.

    Yes the market has reopened, because scientists don't believe the market was the issue.

    But, that is NOT evidence that it was created in a lab. Evidence indicates the market was not the source.

    Please cite something from those scientists who are investigating the source of this SARS strain that supports your claim.
     
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    LOL! What "claim" specifically do you reject? The post you are replying to does not even mention SARS.

    Read again: "Fact: The CCP has allowed the wet markets to reopen.
    Conclusion: The CCP knows that the Chinese Wuhan Coronavirus Pandemic came from a CCP lab in Wuhan - not the wet markets."

    What part of that is difficult for you to understand and accept?
     
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    My point was there are so many variables it isn't really worth making comparisons.
     
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    It's not just difficult - I absolutely and totally reject it as a failed form of argument.

    The fundamental flaw in your original argument is that you assumed there are only two possibilities.

    Now, you want to claim a confession by the CCP - but, you fail to cite that.
     
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    If it is true that the CCP has reopened the wet markets then it is also obviously true that the CCP knows the Wuhan Coronavirus did not come from the wet markets. Think it through.

    The CCP has publicly accused the US Army of planting the 2019-nCoV in Wuhan.
    IOW, the CCP admits it is a bioweapon.
     
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    Really? There is no use in any comparison whatsoever? Deep down even you do not believe that. In truth though, I dont care enough to bother arguing the point.
     
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    I guess you could ad Humans to that list, because were classified as Mammals and we have feelings. The Korowai tribe in Papua New Guinea eat Humans to this Day.
     
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    Not really, if they include so many qualifiers as to make them almost useless.
    Particularly if they are then exploited to make ammo for some wedge issue such as socialised medicine or a leader's mishandling of the virus.
     
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    Dogs are 'Man's Best Friends'. All the other animals are not.
    Everyone knows that - most from personal experience.
     
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    Which leader do you think mishandled the virus? Dr Fauci?
     
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    The Wuhan Lab unleashed the virus accidentally. No surprise.

    What kills me is the U.S. taxpayers are funding the Wuhan Lab.

    Americans are the most generous and biggest fools on the planet.
     
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    Fauci’s NIAID/NIH funded the CCP's bioweapon research.

    "A new study published in the peer-reviewed journal Antiviral Research (Vol. 16, April 2020) is entitled, “The spike glycoprotein of the new coronavirus 2019-nCoV contains a furin-like cleavage site absent in CoV of the same clade.”

    It reveals that the CoVid-19 coronavirus contains unique features that allow it to function as a more efficient weapon system for human-to-human transmission, which helps explain why the virus has been impossible to contain (even under “quarantine” conditions, which have universally failed in China, Japan, Korea and elsewhere)."

    Biological Weapons News, CONFIRMED: CoVid-19 coronavirus found to contain unique “gain-of-function” property “for efficient spreading in the human population” … exact quote from science paper just published in Antiviral Research, By Mike Adams, 02/19/2020.
    https://biologicalweapons.news/2020...for-efficient-spreading-human-population.html
     
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