Who was Tony Timpa?

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  1. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    He was an American citizen who was killed by police outside of Dallas Texas. He was not being arrested for a crime, in fact he was the one who called police because he was having a mental health crisis made worse by having cocaine in his system.

    See if you notice the similarity to another case.

    Timpa suffocated to death while being pinned down by police including one officer who had his full weight on all fours on his back while he was handcuffed from behind and face first in the ground. He was just 32 years old.





    Nobody gave a damn about Tony Timpa. He was the wrong color. Nobody marched for him. Nobody made memorials for him.
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    Wow not a single response.
     
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    There have been many examples of white people being killed by cops in the news. I think most right wingers think it must all be justified, and most leftist think it’s police training and tradition of police using force and escalation instead of deesculation. There is a major problem in policing imo, but it does disproportionately impact minorities.
     
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    So where is your link proving that policing disproportionately impacts minorities?

    Minorities? Meaning Jews? Armenians? Asians? Hmong?

    Most right wingers do not agree with them most right wingers did not agree with what happened to George Floyd. This is what Trump said about George Floyd.

    The difference with the Tony Timpa case is that nobody said he died because of his race.
     
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    Tony was obviously not racially profiled. He died because of police tactics, and you’re demonstrating a major problem in changing police culture. You’re acting like a victim because you’re white. Instead, you could be talking about police training.
     
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    Floyd was not racially profiled either. Didn't stop people from claiming that he was and that he was murdered for being black.
     
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    Black men are more likely to be killed by police than white men, and white people are not racially profiled. Now if you want to actually change policing and these kinds of violent encounters for all races, then it would show in your comments.
     
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    That is dumber than hell. How am I acting like a victim? I was not suffocated.

    I want to live in a society where a person's color does not matter.

    Yes police "tactics" thank you. So what was 5 months of rioting about in 2020? 500 riots because people disagreed with tactics in one encounter with a perp?
     
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    Show the link. You cannot prove that blacks are more likely to be killed.

    I'm tired of dishonest posters on these issues. If I supported this type of policing why would start the thread?
     
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    How long did you protest in the streets?
     
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    Not one minute.
     
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    Then you were upset from your chair?
     
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    If you don’t want skin color to matter, then fight to end racial profiling.
     
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    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/blacks-whites-police-deaths-disparity/

    Looking up statistics isn’t hard
     
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    There is no need to change policing. Police have interactions with the general populace around 40 million times per year. The VAST VAST VAST majority never once end up in any sort of altercation. Where as police killing a black person unjustifiably adds up to about 2 per year. About the same for white people just an fyi. And every time those that did it was punished. Hardly cause for such concern as to completely revamp policing.

    As for your "show in your comments" comment....You've recently registered. Been here since August of last year. Haven't even been here a year yet. Additionally you've made 158 posts in that time frame. Which means you're not here all that often. So what "shows" in my comments you would have no clue about.
     
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    White guy. No political hay to be made and therefore no interest to the media. With no media interest there is no public interest and, effectively, it never happened. The same thing happens with shootings in certain urban areas. They only count to the extent of being able to say stuff like "200 mass shootings so far this year" but if you get into the details of the incident then, as far as anyone that matters is concerned, they never happened.
     
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    This comment shows enough. You think policing is fine. It’s just white and black people not doing what police tell them to, right?
     
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    IMO, the people should be armed and almost all police disarmed.

    Until that happens abuse will be common.
     
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    Now, WHY is that happening? You say its racial profiling. Did you, or your study, take into account the fact that blacks commit more violent crimes than whites? And no, I'm not saying that black people as a race are more prone to violence. In point of fact there are a number of reasons that are not based on race as to why blacks commit more violent crimes than whites. Such as poverty, our education system sucking, ghetto culture etc etc.

    LINK: FactCheck: do black Americans commit more crime? – Channel 4 News
     
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    Generally yes, that is exactly why an interaction with police ends up in violence. The time to fight any injustice is in the courts. Not in the streets with the police.
     
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    Why would I riot and burn cities over the unlawful death of one person?

    I have said nothing to indicate I think people should do that.
     
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    Nothing to be gained politically from it.
     
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    ~ In an exaggerated way you actually make an interesting point about law enforcement in society. IF all legal law-abiding citizens were allowed to be armed at all times and police were merely an investigate department with limited enforcement powers there is a good chance many crimes would quickly disappear . However the period of adjustment would be scary — but this is to be expected.
    I would like to see the states of California and New York be the experimental trial for this idea ... :wink:'
     
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    Another man who was suffocated by police. Not the right color so nobody cared. He was half Hispanic though? Nope nobody gives a damn.



    This man, Mario Gonzales like Tony Timpa had an officer on all fours on his back until he stopped breathing for good. He was Hispanic but not enough melanin for CNN BLM and the democrat party to care.



    Perhaps that pos Ted Lieu could sponsor the Tony Timpa-Mario Gonzales bill that ends these police tactics.
     
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    It's amazing. I totally forget about the existence of this man and how he died, and, every now and then, I get reminded of it. Unlike with George Floyd's death, there was no rioting, no murals canonizing him, nothing. The media attention that his death got in comparison to George Floyd's was essentially but a whimper, and is one of the many reasons that proves that white privilege does not exist.
     
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