Whoopie & the Holocaust

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  1. Pisa

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    Muslims are not a nation, Christians are not a nation.

    Jews are a nation, not an homogeneous religious group. Atheist Jews are still Jews. Jews who convert to another religion are still Jews.
     
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    In what way are atheist Jews and converts out of the faith, Jews?
    Are you trying to say there is a Jewish gene??
     
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    in your opinion are non jews who convert to judaism, jews?
     
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    There's a Jewish genome, yes. Jews are a nation.
     
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    Yes. They become members of the Jewish nation.
     
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    100%

    Its what the Bible says
     
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    When someone is being called a Jew that means that the person is either, an ethnic Jew (Semite), or a follower of Judaism.
    That’s why many are confused because one can become a Jew by being born to a Jewish family and inheriting the ethnicity, or one can accept Judaism faith.
    Becoming a Jew requires one to ask to be accepted - they learn the customs and faith and might even be turned down, but once accepted into the faith, Jews will always treat you as a natural born Jew.
    That’s why one can be born to be a Jew, or become a Jew later. Contrary to some comments I saw earlier, it’s easy to stop being a Jew - you simply stop identifying as one, as there are virtually no documents in the western world that identify someone by their inherited ethnicity.
     
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    That would be "Jewish NATIONS".
    There is more than one.
    and that confident answer may not merit such positivity.

    You may be interested in this:
    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jun/12/what-does-it-mean-to-be-genetically-jewish

    The answer lies really in what you mean by "genetically Jewish".
    In every population, members who live together and interbreed start over time to reproduce with concentrations of genetic composition.
    So for example, there used to be here a group of dwarf like people called Cagots and who (of course) were socially inferior. For the usual reasons.
    However other children who were born as a dwarf were not born of Cagot parents/family.

    If a child is born of Jewish parents, it will inherit certain mitochonrdrial genetic arrangements.
    But other children not born of Jewish parents can also be born with the same code.
    IOW certain genetic code are present elsewhere and do not indicate Jewishness.

    It is the :all Jews carry the same genetic code but not all those with that code are Jewish.
     
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    what is the Jewish genome?

    what does that mean to Jews who don't possess this genome? are we fake Jews?
     
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    which specific gene is the Jewish one?

    if i dont have this genome, am I not a Jew?
     
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    Isreal is a nation, being a jew is still a choice.
     
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    No. You're not still an xtian if you convert to reason.
    AHHAHHAHAA your own link shows that being jewish is not a part of your DNA. You really should have read that before posting it.
     
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    That's a fictional story, come back to reality and stop making things up.
     
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    U can't stop being Irish, or German, or Jewish.
     
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    There's no Irish gene, however.
     
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    Nor is there a uniquely Jewish gene.
     
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    I read that one Hebraic meaning of the word Israel is: "let God prevail." With that in mind, wherever God is allowed to prevail, there is Israel, or the children of Israel in spirit. As a gentile, this gives me a delightful excitement that the God of the Jews is a God of truth. And that the offspring of Abraham are subservient to the spirit, moreso than made righteous by virtue of lineage alone. But who or whatever God says that I am, I am. Because his judgments are just. And my heart his to break at his leisure. As it is better to be set aright by God than to go smoothly to hell.
     
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    Whatever.

    You failed to even attempt to answer my question.
     
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    Then there is no jewish gene since it is always evolving into a new genetic sequence with every new non jewish convert. No scientist could therefore accurately establish what that genetic blueprint was.

    But ithink we all knew that anyway.
     
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    Indeed, there is no gene that can prove 100%, that someone is descended from the ancient Israelites/Hebrews/Judeans. They can make a good guess, but its not 100%.
     
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    True, people can stop being whatever they choose.
     
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    Whoopi Goldberg should not have said what she said in the first place which got her in trouble with certain people if you know what I mean. I have nothing against Jewish people or anyone else. We as people should judge others by their content of character like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had said. What did she mean that the Holocaust happened that there was no racist thing. The Holocaust had to go with the genocide of killing the Jews because they were Jews and Hitler and his followers believed that Jewish people were inferior people and they were responsible for killing Jesus of Nazareth.
     
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    In the episode, Ms. Goldberg said the Holocaust was about “man’s inhumanity to man” and “not about race.” When one of her co-hosts challenged that assertion, saying the Holocaust was driven by white supremacy, Ms. Goldberg said, “But these are two white groups of people.”

    She added, “This is white people doing it to white people, so y’all going to fight amongst yourselves.” As she continued to speak, music came on, indicating a commercial break.

    In a statement on Tuesday night, Kim Godwin, president of ABC News, said that Ms. Goldberg would be suspended for “her wrong and hurtful comments.”
    Like I said. Goldberg shouldn't had said what she said. It was very stupid on her part and she should shut up about it next time.
     

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