Why are Pro-White advocates always smeared?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Polar Bear, Dec 25, 2011.

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Why are pro-White advocates always smeared???

Poll closed Jul 13, 2012.
  1. White interests are routinely subverted by Jews, who are scared of white ethno-nationalism

    15.9%
  2. "White interests" are by default "racist" because whites have always been on top

    38.6%
  3. European advocacy groups are led by racists who are insensitive to "minority" issues

    11.4%
  4. I dunno, I don't care about my race... I wanna race mix

    34.1%
  1. Teutorian

    Teutorian New Member

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    Clearly you don't know anything about National Socialism or WWII but boogey man stories. Not going to have a conversation with someone with a 3rd grade Mickey Mouse understanding of the events that took place. Bye.
     
  2. Teutorian

    Teutorian New Member

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    And you don't know what a strawman is. lol.
     
  3. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    I'm sorry, but if you don't think deportings tens of millions of people to Madagasca would be genoicide you're clearly not thinking it through.
     
  4. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    It's what you did. You claimed I said something that I didn't say and then argued against it. That's a strawman argument. Thanks for playing. I'm down grading you to a silver star for not knowing when to quit.
     
  5. Teutorian

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    I didn't claim you said anything.
     
  6. frodly

    frodly Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely none of the above. Every option presented is moronic. The real reason is, is that people who are "pro-white" are basing their determinations of human worth on the level of pigmentation in a person skin. Those people then coopt the accomplishments of other people with similar levels of pigmentation, as if they are their own accomplishments!! So what they are saying is, "I am proud because some random people I have never met, who would hate my racist ass if they met me, accomplished great things!! Since I have a similar level of melanin in my skin as they have, I am going to pretend as if I had some connection to their accomplishments!!" Anyone who does not deride such a moronic idea needs their head examined!! Racial pride of any kind is stupid. You should be proud of your own accomplishments, or at most the accomplishments of your family and close friends. To be proud of your pigmentation level is stupid beyond comprehension.


    PS. There is no such thing as white interests. There are only human interests. The only thing "white interests" means is to oppress other races in order to prop up worthless white people who aren't capable of accomplishing things on their own, so need laws and groups to look after their interests, since they can't do so on their own!! People of substance, talent, intelligence, skill, etc have no need for such promotion of their racial interests. As those people are capable of looking out for their own interests.
     
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  7. Teutorian

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    Tens of millions?

    I've noticed you come up short in just about every thread you post in and then slink away like a thief in the night only to repeat the whole process elsewhere.
     
  8. frodly

    frodly Well-Known Member

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    Marx never killed, nor ordered the killing of a single person. What Stalin and Mao did in the name of a book Marx wrote cannot be blamed on him. I rarely see people on college campuses walking around with Stalin pictures.


    Second, no they didn't kill even remotely close to 10-20 times more civilians. Nazis killed about 12 million civilians. Killed. Communist numbers are only larger, because they are inflated with all deaths that took place under their regimes. People who died in famines and other disasters are included, which increases the numbers by millions of people. The number of people actually killed by communists is not that different from the number killed by Nazis. Yet, Nazis were in power 12 years, while communists were in power for decades.

    Last point, I am strongly anti-communist. The communists were a blight on human society. So that means if the only way you can justify your despicable ideology is to say "well at least we are better than Stalin," you may need to rethink your standards a bit!! Especially since that is highly debatable.
     
  9. Teutorian

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    Wait...
    What?

    Edit: You get an A in double-talk.
     
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    Wait what? You don't see the difference between rounding up and murdering people, and incompetence leading to famine? If you cannot, and consider recognition of that difference to be double-think, you may be confused about what double think is. The difference is undeniable to anyone with a brain. Nazis rounded up and killed enormous numbers of people. Soviet Socialists did as well. However, if you are going to count the number of people killed, and then compare the numbers to determine who is more super duper evil. It makes no sense to then add in all the people who died of any unnatural causes during that time period. I truly hope you are capable of recognizing this enormous difference, which couldn't be much further from double speak.
     
  11. Teutorian

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    Somehow I doubt you would be willing to excuse the Germans for the millions of people who died of sickness, disease and starvation in their concentration camps as the war went on because of a lack of supplies and food. Yet you want to give the Communists a pass for mass starvation which has become a pillar of Communist revolutions worldwide? Famine is the shadow of Communism, it follows it wherever it goes.
     
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    Exactly my sentiments, only better stated than I was planning. Much more civilly as well.
     
  13. Unifier

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    And the other half of the time, they get accused of doing that even if they are not.
     
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    Once again the poll function of this forum is used to make a joke poll.

    And once again people who have a dislike of Nazi Germany staunchly defend Communist Russia's atrocities as if the two were linked and it was either one or the other.


    There's justification for 3 million dead from Gulags during collectivisation over the period of 3 years alone.
    Excess deaths and camp numbers: Some comments
    Conquest - 1991 - Taylor & Francis
    p950

    There is evidence for the deaths of over 16 million Soviet citizens during the prewar period as well, largely through famine. In the end does it really matter how you killed your civilians? Let them starve or kill them with death squads. Is taking a persons functional farm and forcing them to be part of an unorganized inefficient collective that leads them to starvation any different in the end result?

    Yes Nazi Germany was far more specific in who they killed, but lets not sit here and make apologies for what happened under the Soviets just because they did it in a different fashion. Can we not condemn both sides for their actions and be happy with that and not settle into bickering which basically ends up in dick measuring contests to see who was more efficient or more targetted?

    More civilians died under Soviet rule, the Nazi's targetted their targets in more hienous ways. This isn't an us vs them scenario, WWII is over lets just focus on never letting that happen again.


    I'll buy a skin colour arguement when you can show me a gene that predisposes "whites" to being "better" until then I'm going to continue to believe that it is a product of your environment that allows you to be a good member of society. The sooner both sides drop the us vs them BS the sooner you're gonna have a less volatile and more functioning society.

    "Pro White" is no better than "Pro Black", I'm "Pro Good Humans".
     
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    And that is the problem. That is a HUGE double standard.
     
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    no its not, white pride is arrogant and racist other race prides are more appropriate
     
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    Let's compare this to something I think you can relate with better.

    This is like saying it's arrogant for Packers fans to show prides, since they have been on top. It's more appropriate for Colts fans to show pride just because they want to.

    You can't seriously be this naive. How is it alright for one race to do something, but not another?

    You can't treat races differently... well I guess YOU can... and that is called discrimination.
     
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    I'm not a collectivist, so I don't care about group-think, like supporting my skin pigment.

    But, you must consider why the only white pride groups who express themselves are the more extreme Aryan/neo-nazis. It is because "white pride" has been pushed into a corner as an extremist viewpoint. The white guilt from slavery, whereas minorities had the civil rights movement and were historically oppressed..in America at least. This doesn't fly the same in Europe I imagine.

    And whoever said that black people are portrayed negatively by the media..that is not always the case. The hip hop culture is glorified, especially to the youth who watch MTV garbage all day long. Most of these family shows have the white dad as some goofy loser clown. The black friend is always cool. Why that is? You decide.

    Too bad the swastika is always associated with negativity.
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    +1 this.

    I agree a lot with this.
     
  20. Panzerkampfwagen

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    Did the Packers fans stay on top by murdering the fans of other clubs?
     
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    More collectivist BS. Are you suggesting other races have never murdered anyone of another race?

    Take a look at the _____ on white crime rate and compare it to the white on _____ crime rate.
     
  22. liberalminority

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    if an NFL team exploited other teams for many years and had a monopoly of power over all other teams then that team displays pride its arrogant, immoral, disturbing.

    its the same with pro-white pride
     
  23. Clint Torres

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    LOL... this is a great thread for delusional banter with religious and nationalistc preoccupations, that amount to squat..... LOL.......
     
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    OK. I will direct you to the (insert race) on white crime rate.
     
  25. Panzerkampfwagen

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    Yes, that's exactly what I am suggesting. Only whites commit crimes. You got me.
     

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