Why are Pro-White advocates always smeared?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Polar Bear, Dec 25, 2011.

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Why are pro-White advocates always smeared???

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  1. White interests are routinely subverted by Jews, who are scared of white ethno-nationalism

    15.9%
  2. "White interests" are by default "racist" because whites have always been on top

    38.6%
  3. European advocacy groups are led by racists who are insensitive to "minority" issues

    11.4%
  4. I dunno, I don't care about my race... I wanna race mix

    34.1%
  1. Polar Bear

    Polar Bear New Member

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    Sure, absolve the gang bangers, welfare queens and crooked black politicians of all responsibility for turning Detroit into a toilet...


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  2. Archer0915

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    Well my opinion of it is two fold.

    On an individual level or small group level there are no real issues with having a little white pride. The colors mix fine until we hit the main stream; yeah problems.

    On the national level or at least large scale level there are issues. The media, politicians, many black leaders and many white leaders are the problem. They need racial problems to keep ratings up and to stay in office.

    What would happen if there was a UCCF (United Caucasian College Fund)? I guess those fake black people in charge of the NAACP and the ACLU would be all over it as would the media. Then the problems would start. Hell the congressional Black Caucus might speak up. I mean it is a play on the Negro fund which is headed by? Dr. Michael L. Lomax; is he white? He looks it. I think he might claim it too.

    It is a conspiracy. Really who cares? Nobody until everyone on the outside tells us we care. The black and white communities of the US are being played.
     
  3. three_lions

    three_lions New Member

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    Europeans are expected to hang our heads in shame for the perceived crimes of our ancestors. Perhaps the most significant problem facing Europe is Europe's own psychological need to indulge itself in misery.
     
  4. pjohns

    pjohns Well-Known Member

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    These two observations are not mutually exclusive, in my opinion.

    All too often, white-pride marches are accompanied by racist and/or anti-Semitic imagery (although there is no inherent reason for this).

    But whenever the young (and typically sophomoric) acolytes of Marx and Lenin blithely ignore the atrocities committed in the name of Marxist ideology (whether by Stalin, Mao, Che, Pol Pot, or anyone else), they are simply viewed by many as moral idealists.

    It is a most disturbing double standard, to say the least...
     
  5. Daybreaker

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    This is true. It's also true of those guys that like to pretend that capitalism never killed anybody, though, isn't it?

    Y'know, it occurs to me that I haven't actually met a ton of Marxists. I'm not sure I've met any. But, saying that they're actually out there in similar numbers, do you really think that Marxism was morally similar to racism?
     
  6. Agent Zero

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    Theoretically, if you're an orthodox Marxist there's nothing violent or oppressive about Communism at all in its final stage. If you're an admirer or Stalin, Mao, or Pol Pot, well then it's quite a different story. But with National Socialism, in theory and in practice, it's a racist, imperialist, militaristic cluster(*)(*)(*)(*). If Nazism got the run the Soviets did, I can't imagine the body count they would have accumulated. Thankfully after they started their military build up their economy was a war economy and was destined to collapse anyway.
     
  7. Daybreaker

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    I'm still unclear on exactly what pro-white advocacy is. People who argue in favor of white people?

    People who ask questions like, "Has anyone considered how this will affect the white community?"

    Or like, "Are we really sure that white people are getting their fair share?"

    That sort of thing?
     
  8. pjohns

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    I'm not sure I understand your point.

    Are you referring to undiluted, laissez-faire capitalism?

    Or are you referring to capitalism as it is practiced in twenty-first-century America?

    And, if the latter, how is capitalism, in this latter permutation, "kill[ing]" anyone?
     
  9. Daybreaker

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    I'm not sure what word in every language for communist is, but I ascribe communism first and foremost to those people that describe themselves as communist.

    So, the same standard seems reasonable for capitalists. And how many people have capitalists killed? A lot, I think, if we judge the deaths to which they are attributable by the same standard we judge communism or Marxism or whatever.

    So capitalism was responsible for the dust bowl in America. Lack of central planning, there. If that happened in China, a billion people might have died.

    And capitalism becomes as responsible for every war fought in its name as communism is. Actually, I think communism might have a better track record of spreading peacefully. We're all in this together! does come across better than It's every man for himself!

    Anyway. My point is. It's easy for anyone to have their blinders on when it comes to something they've been convinced is a good idea. Some people will sacrifice their own lives for a cause, and quite a few will sacrifice someone else's.
     
  10. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, those crooked black politicians!

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  11. pjohns

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    I believe you are confusing the laissez-faire capitalism of an earlier era with the American-style capitalism of today. And that is just as wrongheaded as it would be, say, to conflate Stalinism with European-style democratic socialism. (Yes, both could be described as "socialism," in some broad sense of that term; but the two are hardly indistinguishable from each other.)

    I find it enormously disappointing that you would speak glowingly of "central planning." The 1970s-era Soviet Politburo might have done the same thing.

    What recent wars have been fought the name of capitalism, in your opinion?
     
  12. Daybreaker

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    Good point. What do you think are the critical differences?

    Me, too! I'm really not an advocate of central planning in most situations. But on the macroeconomic scale, it seems that some central planning is necessary. Somebody needed to say, "Hey, guys, we're eroding the topsoil here."

    In America, we're pretty open about how the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the ongoing craziness in the middle east and most of what the CIA does in South America were (are) all about capitalism, aren't we? Communism spreads, and we must halt it! Send in the bombs, and then send in the troops, and then send in the capitalists!
     
  13. pjohns

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    Well, just for openers, I would cite the very existence of minimum-wage laws; OSHA standards; Medicare; Medicaid; Social Security; and...well, you get the idea...

    Perhaps the city, the county, or even the state government; but emphatically not the federal government, which I firmly believe should recede into the background...

    Sorry, but I believe that what we were attempting to halt in Korea and Vietnam was totalitarianism on the march.

    Whereas reasonable people may have debated the likelihood of the so-called "Domino Theory" at the time--i.e. that the fall of one country, into totalitarian communism, would necessarily precipitate a similar fall by many of its neighbors--our attempt was to stop what many Americans sincerely believed to be such an inevitability.

    That is hardly tantamount to one's waging wars in the name of "capitalism."
     
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    Why is it that "pro-white" advocates are so willing to tell us about the greatness of Europe and desire nothing more than claiming credit for the accomplishments of their ancestors they see as positive. However, when the crimes of their ancestors are pointed out, they want to distance themselves from it, claiming it isn't their responsibility what their ancestors did. Well, I agree. I similarly agree, that those same people had absolutely NOTHING to do with the positive accomplishments either. They are only responsible for their own actions and accomplishments, and almost all people who are "pro-white" tend to have almost no personal accomplishments to speak of. Ultimately people need to realize how stupid it is to base their pride on the level of melanin in their skin. However, if they fail to come to that realization, because of whatever mental deficiencies they have, then they at the very least need to take credit for all the good AND the bad, not just the good.
     
  15. Ethereal

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    I'll take "race mixing" for two-thousand, Alex.

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  16. Ethereal

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    I dunno. The last option sounds somewhat reasonable, not to mention exciting!
     
  17. Sadistic-Savior

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    I love the idea of race mixing. It is the American Final Solution to the problem of racism. Once there is no longer anyone of "pure" blood, the racists will have to **** about it.
     
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    Why are they always smeared? Because the people smearing them are too hypocritical to apply the same logic to every other race-based group.

    In short, they're easy targets.

    Everyone seems to recognize white supremism from the get go. They don't seem so perceptive when it comes to minorities doing the same thing.

    Either that, or they don't have the balls to call out the minority racists.
     
  19. Polar Bear

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    Rather, it is the Jewish solution to White European identity. Everyone is supposed to race mix but them. White Europeans are only ones expected to down breed. Nobody is forcing the annihilation of ethnic Japanese, Koreans or Chinese. Why is it only Europeans who want to destroy their heritage?


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    There is a God somewhere.
     
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    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    It is not just a Jewish solution. The vast majority of Americans support it as well, and the vast majority of Americans are not Jews.

    If you want a European identity, you can move to Europe. No one is stopping you.

    LOL @ "down breed". Multi-racial America has left the white nations of Europe eating our dust.

    And who exactly is forcing white people to breed with non-whites? Do you people take responsibility for anything or is it always someone else's fault?

    You will have to ask Europeans...only they know.
     
  22. Crawdadr

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    Race is an outdated concept. America is better then that and some day this whole issue will disapear. Becuase I am more concerned with what some one does then what some one looks like.

    As for peoples ancesters, who cares we are Americans now not Greek, African, Chinese, or martians.
     
  23. Polar Bear

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    Whenever an American politician commits a racial sin, like supporting white people or denouncing multiculturalism or "diversity" being a strength, it is always some media Jew from the ADL, SPLC, ACLU, etc. who comes and ruins that politician's career. It is no secret that Jews led the march to radicalize our youth into believing these crazy things like "we are all equal". Elite Jews have always been on the forefront of these egalitarian causes. They profit at the expense of benevolent white elites who foolishly allowed them to take over our universities and media apparatus.

    If you look at only the white portion of our national school system, you will find we perform on par with most European countries and their white populations. However, add blacks and Mestizos to the mix and all the sudden we are closer to the bottom of OECD "rich country" rankings in education.

    Half of white America is under an ideological hypnosis from the left, the other half are scared silly of being identified as a racist. Soon enough, folks will no longer live in fear of admitting the realities we are all to afraid to discuss. History is filled with examples of nations "awakening" to become aware the tumors burrowing within.


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    Back off, she's mine...:)
     
  25. Crawdadr

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    Wow you believe this garbage or are you just trying to get some kind of rise out of people?

    You know never mind, I think you will join the ranks of the ignored. God knows I do not want to be associated with your "kind."
     

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