Why are Republicans expected to just cave on the debt ceiling?

No, the House is the House. McCarthy is the House Speaker.

McCarthy is holding America hostage to his desires by threatening to allow America to go into financial default - a condition that carries SERIOUS ramifications today and into the future.

Using the debt limit as a weapon to override the decisions made by our legislature is NOT OK. PERIOD.

 

How is it THEIR planned government shutdown? Are they going to be flicking a switch which initiates a shut down procedure or something?

 

because they announced they would do it, can't blame it on Biden after the fact, they are the ones doing it

 

How are Democrats not EQUALLY holding America hostage unless THEIR demands are met?

 

HOW MANY TIMES DOES OUT GOVERNMENT NEED TO BE EXPLAINED TO YOU???

Is playing dumb really a workable strategy in your mind?

 

Dems didn't raise the debt ceiling enough to cover planned spending, of course the GOP is overriding that by raising the debt ceiling by $1.5T

Yes a clean bill that raises the debt ceiling in exchange for some sensible steps to bring Federal spending within our means. A bill that doesn't require the Federal Government to make any steps toward living within our means would be a dirty bill, and it looks like the GOP isn't on board with a Dirty Bill.

And, so far, Dems can't even pass a dirty bill.

VOTERS SUPPORT THE GOP'S CLEAN DEBT CEILING BILL THAT THE HOUSE ALREADY PASSED.
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Polling: 'Republicans in the House of Representatives have passed a' clean 'plan that would raise the debt ceiling and also limit government programs in an effort to reduce deficit spending in the future. Based on what you know about the Republican debt ceiling plan, do you support or oppose it?' 57-34 voters support the GOP's Clean Bill.

'President Joe Biden has agreed to meet with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy to negotiate a' dirty 'deal for raising the debt ceiling. Who should compromise more to reach such a deal, President Biden or Speaker McCarthy? Or should both Biden and McCarthy compromise equally?' 40% say Illegitimate Joe should compromise more, only 25% say that the GOP should.

The GOP House has their marching orders 'from the American people.'

 

Republican's don't have to cave on anything.
They can stand their ground and not raise the debt ceiling.
And whatever happens as a result, happens.

 

Earlier you said that the House is Republican.

How are the Democrats not EQUALLY threatening to allow America to go into financial default?

The House is not half of the legislature?

 

It's because they are playing politics with the nation's livelihood.

 

How are the Democrats not EQUALLY playing politics with the nation's livelihood?

 

Dems are NOT HOLDING AMERICA HOSTAGE. PERIOD.

Dems are saying that this hostage idea can not be allowed to work. This strategy on the debt ceiling has failed for Republicans in the past.

Dems allowed the debt ceiling to be raised three times when Trump was president and was spending a bunch of money.

Dems did not hold America hostage any of those three times, because it isn't an acceptable strategy for governance.

 

Democrats are not playing politics with the debt ceiling. It was raised cleanly 3 times under tRump. All they are asking for is the same courtesy. The republicans can debate spending in the budget process, where it belongs.

 

Your idea of a "clean bill" is just false.

That is NOT a clean bill, as it includes two very different aspects.

Try to make an argument based on the truth.

 

Fake News.

Real Wages have fallen for 24 straight months during the Biden/Dem Red Ink Orgy Disaster



We've all reduced our spending to stay within our means, now it's time for the Federal Government to just take a few steps toward doing the same.

The House GOP has already passed a Clean Bill that does just that, but Biden and the Dems are demanding a Dirty Bill that lets them continue the reckless spending but so far, Dems haven't even shown that they can even pass a dirty bill, much less the Clean House Bill.

 

This is absolutely FALSE.

The House has NOT passed a clean bill.

Why do you keep trying to sell your ideas based on blatant falsehood?

I'm thinking that you can not sell your ideas in any other way.

 

Fake News. Dems can pass the House bill or they can pass their own.

https://www.nytimes.com › 2021 › 10 › 07 › us › politics › debt-ceiling-senate.html
Debt Ceiling Bill Approved by Senate - The New York Times
'Oct 7, 2021 In a 50-to-48 vote, the Senate passed legislation to raise the debt ceiling through early December. The House is expected to take up the bill on Tuesday. "On this vote, the yeas are 50, the nays ...'

Note that the Senate passed it first and then it went to the House. The Senate is free to pass a bill, if they could. There is no indication that the Senate is even capable of passing their own bill, or the GOP's Clean House Bill.

 

Because when they have power in Congress and the White House, they have spent money in all its forms like there's no tomorrow. Yes, that includes tax cuts. Now when the payments are on due on debt they contributed to, they want to negotiate how a democratic White House and Senate gets to spend money responsibly...? Nope. Remember, this is to pay interest on money we already borrowed. This is nothing to do with money we will spend or borrow on. That bill is separate. That's why they shouldn't negotiate this way. That and they get nothing with the American voters out of it. But they try anyway.

 

Fake news, it could not be more true. It's Dems reckless attempt to spend in excess of the Debt limit that has brought us to that point, and the GOP's "Clean House" Bill increases the debt ceiling by ONE.FIVE TRILLION dollar along with some modest steps toward returning the Federal Government to our means, just as we have all had to make adjustments our own spending in response to 24 straight months real wage cuts as a result of Biden and the Dems successive $Trillion Red Ink Orgies.



It doesn't look like the Senate can even pass a debt limit bill.

 

Cool. Then maybe they should do that.

BUT, I'd like them to kill the debt ceiling. It has improved NOTHING. It has meant NOTHING. Multiple times it has encouraged Republicans to use it to hold America hostage to overriding decisions made by the legislature - that THEY are a part of.

There is NOTHING about that that is good government.

I'd rather see some new direction taken, as this one has totally failed. If anything, it stands in the way of finding a better way of tying legislation to revenue.

We've been cutting revenue since Reagan. What gave us the idea that we could buy more stuff and NEVER pay for it?

 

You need to give a reputable site when you post stuff like that.

 

dems are not the ones that claimed they would not raise the debt ceiling, repubs did that, so now when it happens, it's their fault

 

Debt ceiling was raised three times under tRump with no objection from Democrats.

DERP!!!

 

Question; What’s a common sense conservative?

Let’s find out……

Scenario # 1

In an effort to prevent enemy aircraft from targeting both commercial and residential areas, Government mandates and enforces blackout regulations.

Regulation 101….You are obligated to turn off all lights if your windows aren’t covered.

2. Prior to said Government mandate, Right-wing conservative Pastor scheduled an evening service, and decided not to cover his Church’s windows because they are stained.

3. During the service, and unexpectedly, a policeman walked into the church, and told everyone to leave.

4. Pastor handed the policeman a text of the 1st Amendment…..“Freedom to worship without due interference”

5. Policeman showed the Pastor Regulation 101, and told him; “Pubic safety overrides your freedom, thus, turn off the lights, and go home”

Response from a common sense conservative;

In said scenario, the authority is absolutely right. Also, the Pastor’s decision to hold an evening service endangered lives, his own, his members, neighbors, and community.

 

"Holding America hostage." You have yet to define what it means.

 

It wasn't the same. Spending has increased to astronomical levels never seen before due to the pandemic. Republicans are simply being fiscally responsible. That's all.