Why do Australians vote with Pencils.

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  1. philxx

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    If a fly farts on a ballot paper they call it invalid if given a chance ,see the members of the 2 party's usually scrutineer the ballot papers in 95% of cases anyway.

    Any mark that is concidered foreign will invalidate.

    kid you not a tiny tear in the corner or even a incorrect creasing and folding ,Yippe we are going to have an election without the ALP surviving the process ,may disintergrat and split in the Election process itself ,now that would be FANFUKENTASTIC!
     
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    JULIA IS OVER thankyou the Motive force of history oh OBJECTIVE one the Universe of constant change is a beautiful thing Kiddies,a beautiful thing indeed ,Rack off Ratbag Gillard.

    DOWN WITH ALP SOCIALDEMOCRACY!

    YIPPPPEEEE WOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!happy communist Revolutionary!
     
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    Beware the Ides of March Julia and Kevin or maybe SIMON CREAN <NOO NOOOO not CREAN as PM.
     
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    For the political equivalent in the USA ,Imagine if the democrat Party Imploded on itself ,oh sorry history choose the Tearepublican Party Implosion in the USA ,see the GLOBAL Objective Nature of the COLLAPSE of the 2 Party Bourgeois democratic form of political rule???

    Can't have a 2 party system with only 1 functional or nominally functional Major political Party.

    Bloody Post-modernist 'everything is relative" drivel is being DEBUNKED!

    Oh and how is the "End of history "thing looking see just theories not Scientifically grounded Historic Laws of Social development!
     
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    HEY JULIA I HAVE A BIG RED TEXTA TO VOTE WITH!

    Sorry all ! just getting the achievement of Happiness !
     
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    Since the modern secret ballot started in Australia, and is called the Australian ballot I would guess they know something about how to run their elections. My guess is that the ballots are scanned by a scanner which can better read pencil than it can pen.
     
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    The only scanners used are human eyes.

    A number of AEC workers sit/stand around a table counting each vote by hand, while scrutineers from all interested parties stand behind them to ensure no mistakes are made.

    If a ballot is put onto the wrong pile, a scrutineer can ask for it to be removed. It is then examined by everyone present to determine if the dispute is valid.

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    John Clarke is one of the greatest comedians to come out of NZ and, alas, migrate to OZ.

    He is one of the few exceptions to the rule that a Kiwi who moves to Australia raises the IQ in both countries.
     
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    http://www.aec.gov.au/ - some information about our system.

    John Clarke invented farnarkling. It should be in the Olympics but those bloody Europeans....
     
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    Give 'em a break, they're aren't enough crayons to go around.
     
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    Yep that is because they are more expensive than pencils

    But you do not want us to waste taxpayer money on BIROS do you?
     
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    The pencils are out for the vote on rudd or Gillard as to who is ALP prime minister?

    its pencils at 20metres.What A Debacle the implosion of the ALP is!

    More putrid and stupid it couldn't be!

    N0 loyalty means no trust and a bloodbath awaits whoever wins on monday morning .

    Anyone who thinks the splintering of the ALP can be arrested has rocks in their head.Its over the ALP will be nothing but a rump of unrepresentative crap after the dust settles.even Doug Cameron understands the writting is on the wall .looks like a new party of a different type is required to take on mad monk Abbott and the liberal zombies.
     
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    Listen bluey we eat crayon around here thats why we have blue tounge lizards and such like .
     
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    Had to happen. Rudd is a nasty, smarmy, condescending jerk with the management skills of a spud.

    All that is happening now is that the protective screen his colleagues (generously) put around his ineptitude as PM is now being dropped and he is being exposed to the Australian public for what he is.

    It should have happened in July 2010 when almost all of his colleagues rebelled against him.
     
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    I have never witnessed such vitriol in australian politics its like something out of the current US Presidental campoaign,the ALP is the Problem not just the present gang of inept Corrupt,vicious ,backstabbing ,liars,no this is something more profound .

    Its to do with breaking up of the major political prop for Australian Capitialism .And a recognition that the ALP no longer rests upon the Working Class in any form ,it has been transformed into a Openly Capitialist entity without the Usual Social reformist twaddle.

    the Mask of Social democracy is being ripped off ,the party that has no unity in its LEADING ranks is a Party leaving the historic stage,The level of personal attack and exposure to public scrutiny of the internal political structures and positions of contending factions is without historical precedent.

    Even before the DLP\ALP split in the 50's a lot of the vitriol was inhouse and the Ideological and political differences were front and centre.not personalities .BA Santamaria was a loathsome human but always political .

    The DLP trvelled north and Died out in Queensland in the early 80's ,gee I wonder what Rudd has as his backup ,no it couldn't happen ,Could it Rudd is a DLP plant.

    Rudd will leave the Party and take a rump with him ,thus bringing down the Government and precipitating an ELECTION to stabilise the political situation ,for the higher intrests of the Nation above political factions.Or he will go independent ,or even reform the DLP.

    One thing is for sure he will not sit silently on the backbenches and the Gillard Government will emerge mortally wounded and the ALP divided irresolvably Divided.

    And all this just as GFC mk2 is starting ,wow politics is changing rapidly ,3years ago Kevin 07 was mister 70% and riding high.Remember?

    Is rudd a grouper from the DLP's dissolution into the Queensland LP?

    oh and poor Anna Bligh only going to be decimated in about a month.
     
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    Please explain.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd be happy to...

    A term used to denote surprise.

    I was not previously aware of the fact that Aussies voted using pencils.

    I found the idea of voting in pencil to be at the top of the list of silly things that I became aware of in the recent past.
     
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    It's cheap, easy and bloody hard to erase on a mass scale - unlike electronic voting
     
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    and your system works better?
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, not at all and I never said or even implied that. The difference being that I can accept criticism of "my system" whereas you Aussies fall all over yourselves making excuses whenever any aspect of your government or the functioning thereof is criticized (with a couple of notable exceptions that I mentioned earlier).
     
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    It's an excuse to point out that you're allowed to bring your own pen and that it's only required that pencils are provided for those who choose not to bring their own?

    Do you realise how stupid that sounds?
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, it is clearly an "excuse". There really is no arguing against that obvious point.

    ex·cuse/ik&#712;skyo&#862;oz/
    Verb:
    Attempt to lessen the blame attaching to (a fault or offense); seek to defend or justify.​

    It is a textbook example of an "excuse", actually.
     
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    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    How is bringing your own pen a fault or an offense?
     
  24. Bowerbird

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    Hmmmmm..........

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/excuse


    Where did you get your definition from?
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your statement seeks to defend or justify the practice of supplying voting booths with pencils, therefore it is an excuse. Whether it is a valid excuse or not is another matter but there is no doubt that it is an excuse.
     

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