Why do Fauci and Gates spread fear and desire long lockdowns?

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  1. Cougarbear

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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-to-end-lockdowns-next-month-11608230214

    I saw on Fox News an epidemiologist say that with two companies now, we should give the vaccines to those over 65. By the end of January, we can end the lockdowns. The WSJ also states from Harvard, the same thing. We don't need to wait for herd immunity. The vast majority of deaths occur with the senior citizens. The younger people rarely die. They should be the last group. In fact, there is question on whether children under 14 even need the vaccine.

    So, why do Fauci and Gates want lockdowns until 2022? What is their reasoning for this? My opinion is they are saying this for notoriety, relevance, power and money. They are also Democrats and Democrats thirst for power, money and control of people. They don't care about the millions of children not getting the social growth in schools nor the education they need. They don't care of the countless children being abused and parents getting away with abusing their children. They don't care of the thousands of suicides going on because of the lockdowns and no work. Pelosi said as much when she admitted that she was holding up the stimulus for the unemployed and small businesses to beat Trump. And, there all the people putting off life saving procedures as well. And, with Biden, things will only get worse.
     
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    That's a great question! Did Fox News Epidemiologist explain why Dr.Fauci wants lockdowns to extend to 2022? Or did the Fox News Epidemiologist just assume and make up facts because the Fox News Epidemiologist doesn't actually know what he's talking about?
     
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    Why not answer the question yourself? CNN did an expect interview with Melinda Gates. What are her epidemiological credentials? She hates most Americans?
     
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    Why would I answer the strawman question the OP is posing? There are lots of reasons why we will still need lockdowns even as the vaccine is in place. Migration, new people are born, other countries vaccinate at other rates, vaccinating anti-maskers, etc. The fact that the OP brought this up says a lot. We're not going to have herd immunity by the end of January. It will take a long time for it to happen because the US isn't the only country in the world.
     
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    When you get paid no matter what, why shouid you fear lockdowns? Lockdowns don’t affect govt employees. They’re getting paid, at least the most vocal supporters.

    As others have mentioned, any Politician requesting shutdowns, shouldn't get paid while they occur.
     
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    It wasn't Fox Newscasters that stated this. This is from an epidemiologist from Stanford University who stated the same thing Harvard did. So, are you attacking Stanford University or Harvard medical school? All the newscasters do on Fox is invite these doctors to speak on what they know. Which is a lot more than you know.
     
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    I'm talking about the question you yourself asked.

    """" Or did the Fox News Epidemiologist just assume and make up facts because the Fox News Epidemiologist doesn't actually know what he's talking about?"""""""""""

    Thanks for paying attention.
     
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    Where will Fauci be on masks 3 months from now? Kids going back to school?

    Trump was saying kids should be in school last summer and people made fun of him. Whatever your opinion on Covid Fauci will agree with you eventually.
    Wasn't bad for big pharma either. Another ultra wealthy segment of our society that wanted Biden to win.
     
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    Why do Fauci and Gates spread fear and desire long lockdowns?

    ~ Because they are communist .
     
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    99.98% of the people who have contracted the Chinavirus survive under the age of 60. Why do they have to all suffer lockdowns, unemployment and hypocritical politicians on the left (Democrats). Why not inoculate the aged by the end of January and let everyone else get back to work and normalcy? No one is forcing you to not self impose your own lockdown. You can do that. He of re are some interesting facts about the fake need for shutting down sports: From May through August 7, MLB had performed 53,826 tests, with only 71 positives, for a positive test rate of just over 1/10th of 1 percent. 49 of the positives were players. Zero died. Zero were hospitalized. From August 1 through November t, NFL had conducted 600,000 tests with 218 positives. That is 3/100ths of 1 percent positive. As far as I can find, zero have died and One has been hospitalized. A NYU Medical school researcher was able to find one college FB player who died from COVID (although he was 6'/350lb, had seemingly largely recovered and died of a blood clot), two HS players and three HS coaches. On one knows whether any of these victims contracted COVID from Anything to do with football. They may have all gotten it at home or from friends whether they played football or not. https://www.stanews.com/2020/11/26/...entilation-death-join-football-risk-covid-19/

    Life is a risk. Such a whoosie bunch of people the U.S. has these days. All started with giving participation awards to loser in sports. Whaaaa!!!! Life is a risk. Live with it!
     
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    Of course they did! Trump was forcing the companies to make the vaccines at cost and paying them a lot less than they would under anyone else but a businessman. And, he's making big pharma make drugs less in cost. Biden won't do that. Democrats are in bed with wallstreet.
     
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    Of course they did! Trump was forcing the companies to make the vaccines at cost and paying them a lot less than they would under anyone else but a businessman. And, he's making big pharma make drugs less in cost. Biden won't do that. Democrats are in bed with wallstreet.
     
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    What a marvelous use of statistics to justify a darwinian, almost sociopathic disregard for the widespread suffering of the millions of loved ones of the sick, not to mention the 316K dead so far.
     
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    ~ Exactly correct. That is why Wall Street hates Trump.
    ~ Your exaggerations are both theatrical and overly dramatic . This is typical of today's radical leftist media and politics.
     
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    Agreed. We all have covid right now. My wife has been at the ER the past 3 hours, don't know if they will admit her yet. If they do, I will read that post to her to cheer her up...
     
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    Exaggerations? 316,000 is no exaggeration. Every damn one of them had families and friends who loved them, Add the huge financial suffering of many millions more with 30 million americans facing eviction on Jan 1 and no health insurance and no unemployment.

    Nah, its all just leftist bleeding heart bullshit to trumpists. Meanwhile nero fiddles in fantasy land
     
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    I’m perfectly fine attacking idiots at those universities. Some random person who appeared on Fox News with no names and no way for me to know what their relationship with either of those universities is? Yeah I’ll attack on those grounds.

    Are you talking about that question now? My mistake.


    I hate it when people just mention the death rate. It ignores everything else medical. How many people have permanent lung and heart damage from covid? How majy will suffer from developmental problems down the line? It makes me sick one someone tries to say covid only kills, when it maims even more.
     
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    ~ Blame China - not America.
    Meanwhile the Democrats support killing the unborn and newly born , feel blameless for homicides committed by illegal aliens, refund law enforcement where needed most and support the destruction of life and 3property via CHAZ cities.
     
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    ~ You know this how ? Is this another Fauci prediction ..?
     
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    I know this because we know how COVID-19 kills?
     
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    ~ You say that it maims more people than it kills. Where are you seeing this ? Where are the patients ? Where are the facts ?
    More drama and exaggeration from the media I suspect .
     
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    Ugh it’s too late in the night to do this. But seriously this is like a basic fact. Covid 19 kills by causing pneumonia from damage in the lungs. So it makes sense there would be high levels of lung damage.
     
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    I've seen two news interviews with two people who had lung transplants because of covid.
    So it does something.
     
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    They want lockdowns because this is NOT about public health.

    All this is about control, fear as a way to achieve control, and money and bureaucratic and individual aggrandizement.
     
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    So, the Gates donations to fight COVID stand at about .5 BILLION dollars.

    And, YOU claim that they do it for money.

    Please explain, becuase to me your comment looks to be pretty high on the scale of ridiculosity.
     
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