Why do Fauci and Gates spread fear and desire long lockdowns?

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the fact that your statement above makes no sense makes sense.
     
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    It makes sense to me because I stand out from your crowd. I come from a belief that because of God the creator we are free people with liberty for all. Liberals can't understand this. It's God that sets us free as our Founding Fathers knew. Just look at the atheists on this thread. They are trying as hard as they can to destroy my right to believe and exercise my religion as I see fit to do. Destroy religious belief so we the elite minds can rule the world! And, be angry about it!!! GRRRRR!!! And we won't stop until you:truce:
     
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    So government employees should have their pay cut off if there is a shutdown?

    Other than the REALITY that plenty of government employees whose pay is cut off from shutdowns, this idea seems to be designed to encourage the fear of shutdowns, and since most government employees are of working ages, they have litle fear to make everyone work no matter how many that kills!

    Hmm, sure sounds Republican to me!
     
  4. WillReadmore

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    I don't know of ANY case where ANY politician proposed lockdowns.

    So, if you fear lockdowns it's because you swallowed some clown's conspiracy theory.

    We have consistently supported and even advocated travel throughout the USA - and, even internationally with almost zero regulation.

    If you can't fly to some other country, it's because they don't want people who come from the COVID hell hole we've made ourselves by ignoring science based medicine.
     
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    I think you don't understand how government shutdowns work versus shutting down private places of work. When private places are shutdown, unless the government prints money to give to them, they never retrieve their pay they lost. Even with the assistance, they still lose income. But, with government employees, not so. The income is just withheld for a time until they open back up their jobs. And, most jobs are not shut down during government shutdowns either. Sounds like you have a Democrat level of education and media tyranny syndrome.
     
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    I think you are confusing the current lockdowns vs. "government shutdowns" because the government can't use their current budget.
     
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    It's you confusing things. When government workers go back to work after a government shutdown, they get all their money through back pay. They don't lose it. Lockdowns, shutdowns, whatever you want to call them is where private businesses lose their income and never get it back. Huge difference. Hey, if I lose $100,000 over 6 months of lockdowns and I know I'm going to get all that money back eventually, I'm good with it. What's there to lose?
     
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    In general, I don't know any government employees getting 6 months pay back after 6 months shut down because of COVID.

    The government shutdowns have typically paid back wages after resuming work, but that has nothing to do with the COVID lockdowns

    Lots of government jobs are being furloughed or laid off.
     
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    A significant portion of our population can't sustain 6 months of no income. We have millions who have nothing saved for investment, retirement, emergency, etc. And, that's not surprising when there are so many who make so little that they don't even pay income tax or when they are living on state and federal support that barely keeps them alive.

    Again, a lockdown is about people movement. A required business closure does not prevent people movement. It's certainly a serious hardship, but not a lockdown.

    Another big difference is that we can take action to help cases of business closures.

    There really isn't anything to do about a lockdown. Paying people because they weren't allowed to travel (or whatever) doesn't make sense.

    You need to claim "business closure". The only reasons for saying "lockdown" are political - it sounds so radical! But, it hasn't happened and hasn't even been proposed. You can go absolutely anywhere you want today - unless some foreign country notices you are from the USA where COVID is totally out of control!
     
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    Why do Fauci and Gates spread fear and desire long lockdowns?

    I believe it feeds their lust for power.
     
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    Gates may have be a "lust for power" I suppose, although the large amount of money he wastes on people around the world seems to be counterproductive to getting "power". Trump's desire for power seems much more "lust driven" than Gates.

    Fauci shows the same effort to do a good job and work on medical knowledge he has done for 40 years. His ability to have gleaned billions from his position and knowledge, yet he has proven more concerned with helping the world to have better science and medicine.

    There is nothing more ludicrous than claiming Fauci has a "lust for power"!:fart::roflol:
     
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    Then color me ludicrous because that is what I did.
     
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    Yes, it is just that simple.
     
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    Yeah, that is why Fauci is sitting on general admission seats at a sports game.

    All them billionaires sit in the bleachers, with their sycophants and security (all TWO people)

    Geez, get real! These claims are a joke.
     
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    It is ludicrous to proclaim that career bureaucrats have no desire to increase the budget and influence of their agencies. Anyone observing the growth of government bureaucracies knows better.
     

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